[MyGreenToe]

Originally Posted by whodair

Verti gave this average grower above average yields. Due the bare bulbs (think light sabers) less time spent in my grow too !!

You got it. Bare bulbs are the way to go if you can work them into the way you grow!

[sixth6]

So with winter comming up, is it worth it to buy a 60" cool tube? or just run 2 600's and a 400 CMH in a sealed room??

[MyGreenToe]

Originally Posted by sixth6

So with winter comming up, is it worth it to buy a 60" cool tube? or just run 2 600's and a 400 CMH in a sealed room??

I'm not a big advocate of cooltubes. I tend to feel the extra inches they get you closer to the bulb aren't worth the lumens they chew up in the process. My vertical growing idol, Heath Robinson, tends to agree. Also, bare vertical bulbs should make for an easier to cool room than reflectors will.

However, if you already have a sealed room you are adapting to vertical growing, cooltubes may be easier to deal with than changing your ventilation system(or upgrading your cooling). Do what works best for your situation.

[Marlo]

Originally Posted by DHF

seems like a lot longer than 3 yrs ago when HG went away.........DHF........ .......

Wow! HG seems like a lifetime ago.

I remember this thread from back then MGT. This is actually what made me start thinking about trashing my reflector. The first image in your post showing the total growing area made it a no brainer for me. Heath's crazy grows were very inspirational as well.

I don't see myself goin away from vert any time soon. Bare hanging bulbs is the only way to go. I have a few vert grows here on IC. The latest was a Vertical Scrog with dual 400w HPS in my signature.

This is a great thread MGT. I'm glad you took the time to post this. I'm sure it will help to convert alot of growers to vert, as it did for me. .

Lemme know if its cool to drop a bunch of pics of my setup in here





MARLO

[RedDeer]

Looks like a good collection of the different methods.

Here is my own tree vscrog grow. I think after going vertical I don't want to grow horizontally again.

[MyGreenToe]

Originally Posted by Marlo

Lemme know if its cool to drop a bunch of pics of my setup in here

MARLO

HG seems like alot longer than 3 yrs ago doesn't it? So much information lost. :(

Drop as many pics as you want in the thread. I will be adding links to my favorite vert examples as time goes on, but it all helps people understand what we're on about!

[And1M]

What a great thread. It really taught me more about vertical grows! I've considered them but never DIY, plug-n-play in more my style when it comes to growing, especially in these complicated systems, so if I ever went in this direction I would buy a setup but it takes quite a bit of money saving

If it's alright I'm going to drop a link here to an online store in Spain that sells almost all of these kinds of setups:

https://www.kayagrowshops.com/index.p...ltivo-360.html

Thanks MGT for your trouble in making this thread

[whodair]

Originally Posted by Marlo

Wow! HG seems like a lifetime ago.

I remember this thread from back then MGT. This is actually what made me start thinking about trashing my reflector. The first image in your post showing the total growing area made it a no brainer for me. Heath's crazy grows were very inspirational as well.

MARLO

and MARLO inspired my switch to vertical, thank you !!!

a few weeks ago i helped a girl start her own bare bulb 600w, its jack herer f6





those pics were taken 14 days apart

[whodair]

[quote=MyGreenToe;3874927]Tree Style Vertical Grows
This is an up down view of such a garden, with the X’s being the Lights and the O’s being the Plants:
Four plant tree garden(5 bulbs):
XOX
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XOX
12 plant tree garden(13 bulbs):
XOXOX
OXOXO
XOXOX
OXOXO
XOXOX
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i dunno brutha...the bulbs in the corners and along the walls seem wasted...your not getting the full 360 that you get surrounding each bulb with plants

my room is a rectangle, and i use 2 x 430w hps bare, and my plants are in a "figure 8"... i squeeze a couple smaller plants between the bulbs !!!

[MyGreenToe]

I know at a glance the huge tree light configuration seems a bit wasteful. But you can't argue with the figures people pull when they use that configuration. 1+GPW seems easy with trees set up like that. Also, you can run a flip flop with that light configuration and only burn half your bulbs at any one given time, actually saving quite a bit over running them all.
Most of the huge indoor tree grows I've seen use a variation on the checkerboard pattern, and it works. You would definitely want your walls to be mylar/reflectix covered to make the most of those outer bulbs. I guess what it comes down to with the trees, is that you are surrounding the plant with lights, not surrounding the lights with plants. Once you think of it that way it's easier to deal with.(pulling over a gram a watt can't hurt either)