Hi guys Ive been growing in soil for the past two years and ive deided to try the hydro route, for flowering anway. 20l buckets wit airstones. Bubble buckets their called (although every site gives them a differnt name)

So before I get into detail about things ill give a quick run through what im planning, most of this is new to me (the hydro part and the use of rockwool) so I really do need help from people if they have past experience.


FOR VEDGE
6 foot white wardrobe completly light tight, the top area is 1 foot in height and the main body is 4.5feet.
I want to use the top for cloning with some T5's (currently i have a 125w in there as its all i have) and the bottom has a sunmate reflector with a 125w cfl (may use a 250 when i have mothers).

Im stating seeds in soil, growing them out, sexing them, find my mother(s), clone in rockwool under the T5's, vedge next to the mother then move into flowering.

FLOWERING
I wont get into the flowering part in detail yet as its gonne be nearly 2 months before Im flowering with the whole sexing of POG but ill have a secret Jardin DR100 (H: 200cm W: 100cm L: 100cm), 4inch rvk fan for intake, 6inch rvk w/ carbon filter for outtake, 600w hps with adjust-a-wing reflector and lumatek digi ballast. A twin fan air controller to keep my temps at 25 and ill be growing in 5gallon (20l) black buckets, each with their own airstone and a Hailea ACO-009 Piston Operated Air Compressor, capable of pumping 110 litres per minute (is this enough?) for them all, I also have another Hailea pump just incase its not.

Will 3 inch net pots be big enough or should i go bigger. Im planning on growing 6 plants at a big size. Or do you think 8 would be ok at smaller, im going for sheer quantily with this grow

OK so ive started my seeds in soil, its West+ organic soil from Atlanti homes and watered with PH 6.5 water.

10 X Pot of gold (reg) (ive gone for this because its supposed to be a monster yielder and wit regular seeds their is far less chance of hermies)
1 X Chronic (fem) (To see if its true about the yield)
1 X Sour kush (fem) (All for me!!)

Its day 3 and I have 8 healthy seedlings, 2 of the POGs are a little fragile so there in humidity dome and 1 POG didnt sprout at all.

There under a 125w CFL, this is my vedging area, temps are holding at 27c + or - .5c. Humidity is 66%, but under the dome is obviously more.

Im not using nutes yet as the soil already has some but in the future the ones in soil have some Biobizz Vedge and for the ones in rockwool and for when im flowering ill be using Canna Aqua nutes.

Alls going well and when I have my camera charged ill post some pics.

As usual all comments and questions welcome.

Peas

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Hi guys Ive been growing in soil for the past two years and ive deided to try the hydro route, for flowering anway. 20l buckets wit airstones. Bubble buckets their called (although every site gives them a differnt name)

So before I get into detail about things ill give a quick run through what im planning, most of this is new to me (the hydro part and the use of rockwool) so I really do need help from people if they have past experience.

I grow in bubble buckets m8, 25 litre buckets, but i cant see the extra 5 litres being of any difference , also run a few other systems and soil (not all at the same time obviously, have just switched techniques as they peaked my interest.)

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

FOR VEDGE
6 foot white wardrobe completly light tight, the top area is 1 foot in height and the main body is 4.5feet.
I want to use the top for cloning with some T5's (currently i have a 125w in there as its all i have) and the bottom has a sunmate reflector with a 125w cfl (may use a 250 when i have mothers).

Im stating seeds in soil, growing them out, sexing them, find my mother(s), clone in rockwool under the T5's, vedge next to the mother then move into flowering.

I'd recommend switching to Aeroponics for cloning, its the simplest method, yields the best results, and, roots the fastest in my experience.

A Foot in height hmm u might want a bit more height room to clone in. Also 4.5 foot might be a tad small for mother plants.

T5's are great for cloning

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

FLOWERING
I wont get into the flowering part in detail yet as its gonne be nearly 2 months before Im flowering with the whole sexing of POG but ill have a secret Jardin DR100 (H: 200cm W: 100cm L: 100cm), 4inch rvk fan for intake, 6inch rvk w/ carbon filter for outtake, 600w hps with adjust-a-wing reflector and lumatek digi ballast. A twin fan air controller to keep my temps at 25 and ill be growing in 5gallon (20l) black buckets, each with their own airstone and a Hailea ACO-009 Piston Operated Air Compressor, capable of pumping 110 litres per minute (is this enough?) for them all, I also have another Hailea pump just incase its not.

110 litres per minute ? Yup thats definitely enough. Each of my buckets get around 10 litres of air a minute.

What type of airstones are u going for ? Thats an important selection m8, u want airstones which put out the smallest bubbles possible, that'll oxygenate the water more than large bubbles.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Will 3 inch net pots be big enough or should i go bigger. Im planning on growing 6 plants at a big size. Or do you think 8 would be ok at smaller, im going for sheer quantily with this grow

I think 4 plants would be best, BB plants grow fast and strong, it may look like u should have put more in before flower, but they explode in flower

3 inch net pots will be fine....... well, depending on your original rooting medium. If ur using rockwool, u need to provide enough room to fit that block in plus a little expansion area on each side for roots to protrude. If your using aeroponics u just need to provide enough room for the bases of the stem and expansion of the base rootball.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

OK so ive started my seeds in soil, its West+ organic soil from Atlanti homes and watered with PH 6.5 water.

10 X Pot of gold (reg) (ive gone for this because its supposed to be a monster yielder and wit regular seeds their is far less chance of hermies)
1 X Chronic (fem) (To see if its true about the yield)
1 X Sour kush (fem) (All for me!!)

Its day 3 and I have 8 healthy seedlings, 2 of the POGs are a little fragile so there in humidity dome and 1 POG didnt sprout at all.

There under a 125w CFL, this is my vedging area, temps are holding at 27c + or - .5c. Humidity is 66%, but under the dome is obviously more.

Im not using nutes yet as the soil already has some but in the future the ones in soil have some Biobizz Vedge and for the ones in rockwool and for when im flowering ill be using Canna Aqua nutes.

Alls going well and when I have my camera charged ill post some pics.

As usual all comments and questions welcome.

Peas

POG is quite a impressive yielder, i gotta say though seeds are overpriced for the strain. If your going mothering it and cloning it though, its worth it. Never used west+ myself, no idea of its properties, best of luck with it. Might wanna drop down your temps to ~24C though, whats wrong with the seedlings that they need a dome ? I consider domes generally more harmful than beneficial to growing cannabis (personal opinion obviously). 66% should be enough provided they have enough water

I grow in bubble buckets m8, 25 litre buckets, but i cant see the extra 5 litres being of any difference , also run a few other systems and soil

Do you find the BBs more/less productive than soil. In relation to time and energy needed and the cost of setup. I jut always find it hard to imagine when people say you can double or treble your yield. But I wanna find out for myself!!!

I

'd recommend switching to Aeroponics for cloning, its the simplest method, yields the best results, and, roots the fastest in my experience.

A Foot in height hmm u might want a bit more height room to clone in. Also 4.5 foot might be a tad small for mother plants.

T5's are great for cloning

Did you buy or make your aeroponic cloner. Can you go from an aeroponic cloner to BBs?

What medium do you use in your cloner?

I was thinking about cloning in rockwool and then vedging under my 600w for about 10 days or until there a foot tall and then flower.

All my plants are going to be going into flower at the same time and finish up at the same time, so I might lose a week on having to vegde in my flowering room but it might be worth it as opposed to vedging under a 125 cfl for about the same amount of time.

I say the 4.5 feet will be enough for the mothers, ill wait til the fifth node and top at the second and supercrop it. If its getting too big ill just grow out some of the clones for new mothers.

What type of airstones are u going for ? Thats an important selection m8, u want airstones which put out the smallest bubbles possible, that'll oxygenate the water more than large bubbles.

The airstones I was looking at are those kinda hexagon shaped blue ones, there long and thin enough, they sell them in pet shops. Ive been looking at the ceramic circular ones also, there 4inch.

Porous piping is good to. It cut out the chance of airstone getting clogged. I might get one of each first to see which has the most bubbles.

Any you would recommend in particular??

I think 4 plants would be best, BB plants grow fast and strong, it may look like u should have put more in before flower, but they explode in flower

I like the sound of that. Once i can get each of the POG pheonos to grow out and find a good mother ill be happy

POG is quite a impressive yielder, i gotta say though seeds are overpriced for the strain. If your going mothering it and cloning it though, its worth it. Never used west+ myself, no idea of its properties, best of luck with it. Might wanna drop down your temps to ~24C though, whats wrong with the seedlings that they need a dome ? I consider domes generally more harmful than beneficial to growing cannabis (personal opinion obviously). 66% should be enough provided they have enough water

Have you ever grown POG?
Ya im all about getting a good mother. I also got 7 free feminised seeds with them for The Attitude so i think it was worth it.

I put the weaker ones in the dome just to raise humidity, i like to keep my seedlings and clones in about 80-90% humidity. Maybe ive been watching too many Jorge Cervantis DVDs, lol, but I thik it does the job.

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Do you find the BBs more/less productive than soil. In relation to time and energy needed and the cost of setup. I jut always find it hard to imagine when people say you can double or treble your yield. But I wanna find out for myself!!!

Things just happen at a faster rate, vegging happens quicker (once the roots have taken hold), side branches are much stronger, you'll notice a much higher yield from side branching, you dont need to lollipop plants as much. I also highly recommend pinching of plants, or supercropping, whichever's your forté. In short, yes they are more productive, doubling or tripling of yield, mmm depends how u ran soil. I've seen some organic grows which would rival any hydro grow. Its definitely a step up from bottle nutes though (including "organic" bottle nutes)

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Did you buy or make your aeroponic cloner. Can you go from an aeroponic cloner to BBs?

What medium do you use in your cloner?

Bought one like a muppet. There simplistic to make. Only realised it when it got here. The name sounds off putting, but its really the easiest way of growing in my opinion.

Theres no medium in aeroponics, the roots hang in something like a tupperware container and are sprayed or misted with a nute solution.

Yeah the transition from aeroponics to BB's is pretty seamless. Thinking about it though, bubble cloners are something i've been meaning to try, they'd probably be even better, and are touted as having similar results..... I've never had a clone not root in aeroponics

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

I was thinking about cloning in rockwool and then vedging under my 600w for about 10 days or until there a foot tall and then flower.

All my plants are going to be going into flower at the same time and finish up at the same time, so I might lose a week on having to vegde in my flowering room but it might be worth it as opposed to vedging under a 125 cfl for about the same amount of time.

No need for the 600 for the first few weeks of rooting/vegging i dont think, to each his own though, its a debatable topic . I definitely wouldnt leave them "vegging" under the cfl over a 600 though

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

I say the 4.5 feet will be enough for the mothers, ill wait til the fifth node and top at the second and supercrop it. If its getting too big ill just grow out some of the clones for new mothers.

Sounds good

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

The airstones I was looking at are those kinda hexagon shaped blue ones, there long and thin enough, they sell them in pet shops. Ive been looking at the ceramic circular ones also, there 4inch.

Porous piping is good to. It cut out the chance of airstone getting clogged. I might get one of each first to see which has the most bubbles.

Any you would recommend in particular??

I'll have to get back to ya m8, its late and i just cant be arsed searching for specifications lol, i like a thin airstone i cant remember the brand of but the only retailers over here sell them at astronomical prices. Theres also a bigger circular airstones sold at reasonable prices round here. Again i can remember the brand though. 'll be back to ya with em though.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

I like the sound of that. Once i can get each of the POG pheonos to grow out and find a good mother ill be happy

Have you ever grown POG?
Ya im all about getting a good mother. I also got 7 free feminised seeds with them for The Attitude so i think it was worth it.

Not grown it personally, i've watched it being grown by a friend though. Didnt mean to put across it was too much to pay, there are much dearer seeds, and if its what u like at the end of the day its still cheaper than an ounce and you'll yield much more .

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

I put the weaker ones in the dome just to raise humidity, i like to keep my seedlings and clones in about 80-90% humidity. Maybe ive been watching too many Jorge Cervantis DVDs, lol, but I thik it does the job.

Nah man if thats what works for u stick with it, i used domes for a while but transitioned into not using em for my own idea's and reasons, i understand your logic in em

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Originally Posted by The_Grim_Reefer

I'll have to get back to ya m8, its late and i just cant be arsed searching for specifications lol, i like a thin airstone i cant remember the brand of but the only retailers over here sell them at astronomical prices. Theres also a bigger circular airstones sold at reasonable prices round here. Again i can remember the brand though. 'll be back to ya with em though.

Heres the thin 1 its made by rena https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Bubbler-.../dp/B0002566VK. If ur thinking bout this 1 i'd recommed 2 per bucket as they are thin , but your air pump has a 12 outlet manifold anyways doesnt it ?

Cant find the packaging of the disc airstones. I think they may have been made by haelia but not 100%, 6 inch circular ceramic airstone. That was just a random search for the airstone, u may want to shop around on price etc.

Ceramic airstones are better long term imo, clean em with peroxide between harvests and they should last u a very long time, whereas other airstones need to be replaced

Things just happen at a faster rate, vegging happens quicker (once the roots have taken hold), side branches are much stronger, you'll notice a much higher yield from side branching, you dont need to lollipop plants as much. I also highly recommend pinching of plants, or supercropping, whichever's your forté. In short, yes they are more productive, doubling or tripling of yield, mmm depends how u ran soil. I've seen some organic grows which would rival any hydro grow. Its definitely a step up from bottle nutes though (including "organic" bottle nutes)

Thats the job, its sounding better everyday. Out of interest what nutes do you use in your BBs?. Im going to use canna aqua nutes. Ive heard there pretty good things and I like the results i got when i ran their soil version. If i could only get my head around the LUCAS formula now id be delighted.

Bought one like a muppet. There simplistic to make. Only realised it when it got here. The name sounds off putting, but its really the easiest way of growing in my opinion.

Theres no medium in aeroponics, the roots hang in something like a tupperware container and are sprayed or misted with a nute solution.

Yeah the transition from aeroponics to BB's is pretty seamless. Thinking about it though, bubble cloners are something i've been meaning to try, they'd probably be even better, and are touted as having similar results..... I've never had a clone not root in aeroponics

You never has a clone that didnt root in aeroponics. Thats unreal man. Its something im going to have to have a look into.

No need for the 600 for the first few weeks of rooting/vegging i dont think, to each his own though, its a debatable topic . I definitely wouldnt leave them "vegging" under the cfl over a 600 though

Ya the 600 is a bit extreme isnt it. I just remembered i have a 400w with dual spec bulb that i can use. Im using the CFLs for my vegging as i dont want to shell out on new fans and i think vegging plants get on fine with them anyway.

But if im running out of room with mothers taking up space and that I think ill vegg them with the 400w in my flowering room and keep the 600w for when its 12/12 time.

I dont know why i didnt think ok that one earlier

Heres the thin 1 its made by rena https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Bubbler-.../dp/B0002566VK. If ur thinking bout this 1 i'd recommed 2 per bucket as they are thin , but your air pump has a 12 outlet manifold anyways doesnt it ?

Cant find the packaging of the disc airstones. I think they may have been made by haelia but not 100%, 6 inch circular ceramic airstone. That was just a random search for the airstone, u may want to shop around on price etc.

Ceramic airstones are better long term imo, clean em with peroxide between harvests and they should last u a very long time, whereas other airstones need to be replaced

Ya ive seen a few of the haelia ones alright. Ill shop around a while, i have loads of time to get everything setup anyway. I was considering these ones anyway
https://www.3ch.co.uk/pumps/air-pumps.../prod_524.html

Ya ill stick with the ceramic, ive heard about build up forming on the other ones.

Not grown it personally, i've watched it being grown by a friend though. Didnt mean to put across it was too much to pay, there are much dearer seeds, and if its what u like at the end of the day its still cheaper than an ounce and you'll yield much more .

Its cool man i got what you were saying. I wanted them mainly because its supposed to be one of the highest yielding plants around (i know it mainly comes down to the grower) and they were regular, so less chance of hermie. When i have my expenses sorted ill get finding my favourite strain.

I got some kandy kush, sleestak, LA Conf and OG18 all crossed with a skunk from DNA. There supposed to be limited edition seeds - how true that is i dont know but im looking forward to giving them a grow anyway.

Thanks too man for giving me a hand here. You can read as many articles as you can but theres nothing better than someone advising you on your specific setup,

Im waiting to sort out my bloody broadband so i can get some pics up. There only of seedlings so far but everybody likes a pic.

On a side note - a 4inch square net pot in Woodies - 4e. Robbery. I wanted 8 for my have 1 or 2 spare mentality but i couldnt justify the price. 32e on 8 pots. Not gonna happen------A bit better https://www.3ch.co.uk/hydro-systems/a.../prod_137.html

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Thats the job, its sounding better everyday. Out of interest what nutes do you use in your BBs?. Im going to use canna aqua nutes. Ive heard there pretty good things and I like the results i got when i ran their soil version. If i could only get my head around the LUCAS formula now id be delighted.

Canna Hydro. Ran Vita link, and a modified lucas formula, but stuck with canna.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

You never has a clone that didnt root in aeroponics. Thats unreal man. Its something im going to have to have a look into.

Have a look into bubble cloners aswell m8, they'd take out the transition time between clone chamber and veg chamber, as the roots would already be set in their net pots

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Ya the 600 is a bit extreme isnt it. I just remembered i have a 400w with dual spec bulb that i can use. Im using the CFLs for my vegging as i dont want to shell out on new fans and i think vegging plants get on fine with them anyway.

But if im running out of room with mothers taking up space and that I think ill vegg them with the 400w in my flowering room and keep the 600w for when its 12/12 time.

I dont know why i didnt think ok that one earlier

If your running your veg room in your flower room remember the veg chamber is gonna have to be 100% light proof, and your only going to be able to access it when the flowering room is accessible (ie. you cant access your veg chamber when the flowering room is in dark)

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Ya ive seen a few of the haelia ones alright. Ill shop around a while, i have loads of time to get everything setup anyway. I was considering these ones anyway
https://www.3ch.co.uk/pumps/air-pumps.../prod_524.html

Ya ill stick with the ceramic, ive heard about build up forming on the other ones.

Ceramic airstones still get the build up, they need a cleaning after each harvest

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Its cool man i got what you were saying. I wanted them mainly because its supposed to be one of the highest yielding plants around (i know it mainly comes down to the grower) and they were regular, so less chance of hermie. When i have my expenses sorted ill get finding my favourite strain.

I got some kandy kush, sleestak, LA Conf and OG18 all crossed with a skunk from DNA. There supposed to be limited edition seeds - how true that is i dont know but im looking forward to giving them a grow anyway.

Thanks too man for giving me a hand here. You can read as many articles as you can but theres nothing better than someone advising you on your specific setup,

Im waiting on my bloody broadband so i can get some pics up. There only of seedlings so far but everybody likes a pic.

On a side note - a 4inch square net pot in Woodies - 4e. Robbery. I wanted 8 for my have 1 or 2 spare mentality but i couldnt justify the price. 32e on 8 pots. Not gonna happen------A bit better https://www.3ch.co.uk/hydro-systems/a.../prod_137.html

Its always reassuring to be able to ask questions, happy to help m8

Square pots arent ideal anyways its much easier to cut a circular hole into a lid than a square 1

Everybody does love a pic

DNA's skunk cross release was a christmas special last year far as i remember. Theres been mixed reviews. Have a read through a few of the journals out there on them.

Never seen those airstones in action m8

Reg or fem can throw hermies, its the parent plants used which determines progency. White labels fems have been stable from what ive seen. Though that has been limited

Canna Hydro. Ran Vita link, and a modified lucas formula, but stuck with canna.

Did you just stick to cannas recommended feeding schedule or did you modify it.

I dont get why they say use PK13/14 for only one week either. Its for budding formation it says. I know its strong but from what ive read alot of people us it for about 3 weeks

Have a look into bubble cloners aswell m8, they'd take out the transition time between clone chamber and veg chamber, as the roots would already be set in their net pots

Ya ive had a look at a few there, im def getting a little tote and making one. I wont need it for another month or so but ill get on it soon.

If your running your veg room in your flower room remember the veg chamber is gonna have to be 100% light proof, and your only going to be able to access it when the flowering room is accessible (ie. you cant access your veg chamber when the flowering room is in dark)

I didnt make myself clear at all i dont think. Im going to be vegging or flowering in the room, not both at the same time. Its in a tent so i cant really block it off now.

Ill have my mothers and clones in a seperate room, them move the rooted clones into the tent under the 400w until there the size i want, then ill put in the 600w hps and flower.

I know its not ideal but with my limited space its the best i can do.

Also if I make the bubble cloner and have it uder T5s, i should be able to get them to a decent size before veggin, so hopefully it wont take that long

Ceramic airstones still get the build up, they need a cleaning after each harvest

Ya from what ive gathered EVERTHING should be cleaned thoroughly after each harvest.

Next to godliness and all that.

Do you ever use H2O2 to keep your roots white or do you find there usually ok in the BBs?.

Square pots arent ideal anyways its much easier to cut a circular hole into a lid than a square 1

Oh well,too late now
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I have some spiffy tools so cutting out the shape should be ok

Its always reassuring to be able to ask questions, happy to help m8

Cheers man,now if i could only learn about adding those little emotion pics id be delighted with myself

Reg or fem can throw hermies, its the parent plants used which determines progency. White labels fems have been stable from what ive seen. Though that has been limited

If i had know that i might of stayed away form the regular POGS and prob would of got chronic, ak47 or crtical ak (critical mass x ak47). Oh well, i have one chronic on the go now. I may keep it as a mother so and see how i get on.

Oh yeah some sapling pics i suppose


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Ive got this 9v fan i pulled out of an old PC. Its a 12v fan. Anyone know how i would wire it up to work on a normal plug. Electricity scares me so i wanna no what im doing before i get started.

Im pretty sure ill need a 12v dc adaptor.

Would this work? https://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...C=SO&U=strat15

Im gonna use it for an intake in my mother/clone room



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Theres 7 Pot of Gold, 1 sour kush and 1 chronic

Oh ya, thanks again grim for that PM

Forget about the fan question. I found an old 7v charger, its working fine so far and temps are good. If its not doing the job ill get the 12v

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Did you just stick to cannas recommended feeding schedule or did you modify it.

I dont get why they say use PK13/14 for only one week either. Its for budding formation it says. I know its strong but from what ive read alot of people us it for about 3 weeks

I didnt even read canna's nute schedule to be honest man, i have my own. I'd imagine its somewhat similar though. I also usually use PK 13/14 for about 3 weeks. Depending on the strain, how long it flowers for, and how its reacting etc.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

I didnt make myself clear at all i dont think. Im going to be vegging or flowering in the room, not both at the same time. Its in a tent so i cant really block it off now.

Ill have my mothers and clones in a seperate room, them move the rooted clones into the tent under the 400w until there the size i want, then ill put in the 600w hps and flower.

I know its not ideal but with my limited space its the best i can do.

Nah man its easy to get carried away looking at all the medical grows on here from over in the states. If your working with a tent, stick with it, u can always expand later if u want to.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Also if I make the bubble cloner and have it uder T5s, i should be able to get them to a decent size before veggin, so hopefully it wont take that long

It'll take longer than ya think, but go faster than u know if that makes any sense lol, thats what i've found.

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Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Ya from what ive gathered EVERTHING should be cleaned thoroughly after each harvest.

Next to godliness and all that.

yup, cant be said enough, early to be saying it i know but do it immediately aswell and it'll be easier

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Do you ever use H2O2 to keep your roots white or do you find there usually ok in the BBs?.

No i've never used h202 on the roots, good measure if used correctly though. Make sure u read up if ur gonna use it though, too little and its useless, too much and it'll destroy yer roots . And no, i've had no problems with roots in bubble buckets so far

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Oh well,too late now

I have some spiffy tools so cutting out the shape should be ok

Ah, thats what alot of growers lack, great setups but no DIY tools, you'll be grand so man, u know yourself sure

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Cheers man,now if i could only learn about adding those little emotion pics id be delighted with myself

lol all u gotta do is click the pic to the right when u want it, if u don see the 1 u want click the "more" text link underneath them, and click them on that page

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

If i had know that i might of stayed away form the regular POGS and prob would of got chronic, ak47 or crtical ak (critical mass x ak47). Oh well, i have one chronic on the go now. I may keep it as a mother so and see how i get on.

You'll get first hand experience with males, good knowledge to gain. Makes it much easier to see if things happen to go wrong with your females.

Originally Posted by dr.euforia

Oh yeah some sapling pics i suppose

Theres 7 Pot of Gold, 1 sour kush and 1 chronic

Oh ya, thanks again grim for that PM

Seelings looking good man. D'ya have a fan on em ? Keep the lights low on em too, looks like ya have already, just the 1 stretching, n sometimes ya cant do anything bout that they just like to get up and above quick. But the fan'll strengthen up the stems