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Old 12-06-2005, 07:12 PM #1
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help, my moms are sick

just wanted to run this by everyone

my moms (apollo 11 and white rhino) always do well and then about 5-8 months they start looking ill, not sure if i'm under or over feeding

heres some pics
anyone who can tell me whats up ?








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Old 12-06-2005, 07:29 PM #2
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you havent given nearly enough info for a diagnosis bro :(
i can say so far that--
YOU CANT KEEP A PLANT OF THAT SIZE IN A DIXIE CUP FOR 5 MONTHS mJOHN
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they look rootbound, and moisture stressed for starters. Don't try to correct anything right now it'll just get worse.

also check your pH and get back to us.

you need to transplant and tell us what your soil is, nutes, environment etc etc etc give more info

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Old 12-06-2005, 07:36 PM #3
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looks like your feeding organic ey?

after they recover from the transplant somewhat try to get some chem fert into them, something thats all around like a miracle grow or shultz liquid 10-10-10 is perfect as it contains all the major and secondary elements neccesary and should solve any defieciency for the most part. '

if i had gh flora in stock id be feeding this to my moms

y use organics for something your not even smoking

hehe im making the switch to GH but schultz will work great.

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Old 12-06-2005, 08:16 PM #4
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Want me to make a house call, babydoll?
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:03 PM #5
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havent checked ph yet (whats the best way to do that in soil plants?)
but heres some more info
soil mix : premier spahgnum moss mixed with 30-50% pearlite
ferts: usually neptunes harvest fish and seaweed 2-3-1 but sometimes advanced nutes sensi grow a/b

usually fert once every 2 weeks

first signs of problems are the lower leaves yellowing around the outside edges
the yellowing works its way into the center of each leaf blade turning a dull yellow/brown then the leaf dries up and crumbles to the touch.

this pattern of decay starts at the bottom and works its way up
also the upper stems just below the new growth seem to turn purple and get kinda hard in the later stages of decline.

this ends up happening to all my plants even if they are transplanted into the 2 liter
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yes, a housecall is needed

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Old 12-06-2005, 09:09 PM #6
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to check pH in soil...

get a pH meter...check the pH of your water first!


...water your plant and have a tray under the plant...water it until water comes out into the tray...test this water with the pH meter.

i think a 2 liter pot for mothers is too small. maybe 20 liters?? or larger!

i would start with finding out what you pH is, first, though. until you have fixed this, you are 'in the dark'...

maybe santy clawz will bring you a nice pH meter, and some calibration liquids (hint hint)...
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:33 PM #7
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thank you sleepy , got a hanna , its a cheap one....but me thinks it'll work

maybe i'll have to stick with my clone and replace method cuz i dont have room for a much larger pot than maybe 3 liter.

maybe time to think of a larger space, i thnk i can expand maybe a little ,but my height cant go over--like maybe 3'
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:40 AM #8
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Yeah a good ph meter will take you pretty far. If your keeping moms in the same medium for 5-8 months at a stretch then by all means skip the peat moss products as they break down acidic over time and will pull that ph way down.
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