[greentrich]

Late Tuesday (7-20-10) night the Oakland "City's politicians" past measures to allow large cannabis farms. If you want to be one of these farmers, you need to come up with some cash: $5,000 for admin costs, "$3million for insurance"...don't know if that's in cash or a $3million insurance policy, and $211,000 a year to grow.

Needless to say this has the small farmers upset turning Cannabis "capitalist". Along with permitting large farms, the city is planning on raising it's 1.8% tax to 12%.

Seems it has started. Cannabis going from completely criminal to capital. My view on the political system...this will pass in Nov no matter how the votes come out. I had suspicion, and maybe it's my paranoia about our country, but it doesn't seem to matter how we vote anymore. They're gearing up for something that hasn't even passed yet, like they know it will. Why are these things (federal income tax, gold standard abolished, cannabis farms) always passed late at night under everyone's noses????

Good luck to all you small farmers out there...it's gonna get shitty. The price alone to be permitted to have a large farm absolutely ridiculous.

Here's your link: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ers_upset.html

[bbing]

what kinda taxes are being paid by Pharma in this state?

i would hope our meds will not be taxed unfairly becuase of color........green

[ashash1212]

so this will mean no legal small grows?

[MoldyFrogToe]

to get coverage for 3mil is not a lot of money. On a hiking trip we were covered for up to 1 or 2 mil including helicopter rescue and it was only in the hundreds for that coverage. might be a little more for extended coverage though.

[nomaad]

Originally Posted by MoldyFrogToe

to get coverage for 3mil is not a lot of money. On a hiking trip we were covered for up to 1 or 2 mil including helicopter rescue and it was only in the hundreds for that coverage. might be a little more for extended coverage though.

how long did that trip last? a couple of days? a week? Insurance costs are extremely high when you interpolate them to the entire year and add 10,000 lights and fire risk, etc...

in some industries insurance is crippling. medical malpractice insurance is so high in some places that Drs communte out of their own state to practice.

[binaryfission]

why do you need a large farm? small batch cannabis will be whats profitable. Just like organic or local food is popular now. If you can make gourmet food and sell it out of a food truck in austin then you can grow small batch organic/vegan pot and sell it.

also hash? this is where true artistry will come in. Grow great bud, cure it properly and then compress it properly to increase flavor. this takes skill.

what we need to keep our profits is a system to retain value. Fair trade standards applied to outdoor grown pot for instance.

A simple example: we as a community could decide that only pot trimmed by hand, with the trimmer making say $20 an hour, could be considered fair trade pot. This eliminates big business. No machine trimming.
OR
hash that is pressed by hand. think about it like free range chicken or grass fed cattle. People pay more for these products.

This is OUR government.
This is OUR economy.
This is OUR weed.

we control it. we pay their salaries. we need to stand together and do the smart thing.

[KGB47]

Originally Posted by greentrich

Late Tuesday (7-20-10) night the Oakland "City's politicians" past measures to allow large cannabis farms. If you want to be one of these farmers, you need to come up with some cash: $5,000 for admin costs, "$3million for insurance"...don't know if that's in cash or a $3million insurance policy, and $211,000 a year to grow.

Needless to say this has the small farmers upset turning Cannabis "capitalist". Along with permitting large farms, the city is planning on raising it's 1.8% tax to 12%.

Seems it has started. Cannabis going from completely criminal to capital. My view on the political system...this will pass in Nov no matter how the votes come out. I had suspicion, and maybe it's my paranoia about our country, but it doesn't seem to matter how we vote anymore. They're gearing up for something that hasn't even passed yet, like they know it will. Why are these things (federal income tax, gold standard abolished, cannabis farms) always passed late at night under everyone's noses????

Good luck to all you small farmers out there...it's gonna get shitty. The price alone to be permitted to have a large farm absolutely ridiculous.

Here's your link: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ers_upset.html

Strange that the guy that sponsored prop 19 has all those resources in place and ready to go, kind of like he knew that when he was writing it.

[reality checker]

so much for not going corporate...now if Prop 19 passes, and counties and cities can ban cannabis production, who do you think will be cashing in? Think Oaksterdam....Richard lee?

[greentrich]

Strange that the guy that sponsored prop 19 has all those resources in place and ready to go, kind of like he knew that when he was writing it.

My thoughts exactly. This whole thing seems as rigged as a fixed boxing match. Lil too fishy for me.

[Grass Lands]

Originally Posted by binaryfission

why do you need a large farm? small batch cannabis will be whats profitable. Just like organic or local food is popular now. If you can make gourmet food and sell it out of a food truck in austin then you can grow small batch organic/vegan pot and sell it.

also hash? this is where true artistry will come in. Grow great bud, cure it properly and then compress it properly to increase flavor. this takes skill.

what we need to keep our profits is a system to retain value. Fair trade standards applied to outdoor grown pot for instance.

A simple example: we as a community could decide that only pot trimmed by hand, with the trimmer making say $20 an hour, could be considered fair trade pot. This eliminates big business. No machine trimming.
OR
hash that is pressed by hand. think about it like free range chicken or grass fed cattle. People pay more for these products.

This is OUR government.
This is OUR economy.
This is OUR weed.

we control it. we pay their salaries. we need to stand together and do the smart thing.

We think in similar paths....

When all the small growers pull together we will make one helluva a movement...we have the power in number folks, its time we get off out asses and quit bitching.


One more note folks. while we sit here bitching about losing we gain nothing but negative momentum...when in fact we need to turn our efforts to positive thinking and brainstorming on what we can do to combat the big corps....

I'm thinking a growers co-op, with only the finest strains. all hand tended plants, hand watered, hand trimmed, and cured to perfection...all product produced would supply the smoking lounge owned by the co-op, now this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. if anyone cares to add to this please fire away...


Peace
GL