[VerdantGreen]

hmm i think that the 'thinking' and 'remembering' claim is actually pretty justified (as well as being a snappy headline ), we already knew about the flow of hormones through plants but this is an electro chemical response which is much more akin to the way our brains and nervous systems work - information is transmitted with electricity, and if the reaction continues after the stimulus is taken away then that is a memory of sorts.

one thing that crossed my mind in relevence to mj was that, if you are using UV light to stimulate more trics, it could mean that you may not need to expose the whole plant to the same level of UV light, just a part of the plant close to the bulb may create the desired effect in the whole plant if the reaction to the light is relayed through the bundle sheath cells.

VG

[greentrich]

one thing that crossed my mind in relevence to mj was that, if you are using UV light to stimulate more trics, it could mean that you may not need to expose the whole plant to the same level of UV light, just a part of the plant close to the bulb may create the desired effect in the whole plant if the reaction to the light is relayed through the bundle sheath cells.

That's a great thought VG. One I hadn't thought of, and one I wish could be tested as it sounds like [from the article] could be true.

The whole time I was reading that I'm thinking..."I'm missing the point here somehow." It seemed they were just regurgitating things we already knew, only with different wording.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, NOW I see the point.
(Maybe I just had to smoke first??? )

[*mistress*]

Originally Posted by VerdantGreen

we could really do with a 'botany' section but until then this is probably the best place for it.

tried something similar:

advanced techniques|experimental methods|tests|plant physiology+manipulation|env eng no interest...

& some discussion here, about musical/sound influences, as well as alternative light regimes:

16/12 cycle


cheers

[englishrick]

sounds like epigenetics,,,,


imo,,,epigenetic silencing is responcable for a genotype not reaching its full expressive potential

[Mr. Greengenes]

I was thinking that, for the purposes of this discussion, we need to define thinking. People who study animal behavior have been redefining the line between humans and other animals like crazy in recent times. Used to be that animals couldn't practice deceit let alone have anything like what we humans call culture. BTW, "The Ape and the Sushi Master" by Franz de Waal is a good read on animal culture. And so, we keep drawing the line closer, and closer. Pretty soon, it will turn out that the only thing that separates H. sapiens from other species is that we're a different species! It was always obvious, but it took a tough guy like Chuck Darwin to stand up to incorrect popular opinion. To define thinking as something unique only to humans would be doomed from the start. I think it would be better to try to widen the definition than narrow it.

[ibjamming]

Good point Mr G!

I say the same thing all the time...there's something going on in their head.

The problem is...people don't want to think...that their food...thinks.

[olsmokey]

but in that case people wouldn't have trouble with the shade buds.

Originally Posted by VerdantGreen

one thing that crossed my mind in relevence to mj was that, if you are using UV light to stimulate more trics, it could mean that you may not need to expose the whole plant to the same level of UV light, just a part of the plant close to the bulb may create the desired effect in the whole plant if the reaction to the light is relayed through the bundle sheath cells.

VG

[localman]

Find me a plant that does the OPPOSITE of what is typical behavoir and I might say it could "think" only if the choice was made over a reaction in form but CHOICE....

Plants DONT CHOOSE
so
Plants Cant Think....

[CrumpleZone]

I think that the problem lies in one's definition of the word "thought".

[VerdantGreen]

olsmokey if you are talking about small shade buds then that is due to the lack of photosynthesis by the leaves that feed that bud. the leaf that is attached to the bud is what primarily feeds it, as well as a small amount of photosynthesis by the bud itself.

what i was theorising about is a defense mechanism being triggered across the whole plant by a proportion of the plant that recieved the stimulus - in this case UV light.

as for the definition of thought, that is a whole other philosophical discussion . as i said i can feel the comparison they have used due to the electronic nature of the message as opposed to hormonal. its a pretty amazing discovery imo whatever you want to call it. i just reproduced the tag line as it was already written.