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Old 07-02-2010, 01:32 PM #1
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Zoidfuel x Wallys C99

Z99 has to be one of the most catchy names ive seen in a while

have soaked the seed and planted them out into peat pucks on a heat mate set to 25c in my new grow cabinet

not many pics yet but heres a short history on the Zoid

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the first lines we made using progeny testing for the most crucial and contriversial part of canabis breeding, male selection.
We selected 5 males from a range of 50 by eye from our pure fuel line( aussie, no relation to anything diesel). Those 5 were then progeny tested by individualy using them to polinate several examples of our other lines, to acurately isolate and document each of the males contributions to its female offspring. Each male polinated females of:
B.I( blue indica) mother line
B.I f1 hybrid, select phenotype
The zoidberg clone
zoidberry f1 hybrid, select phenotype
the cherry line
the sweet line

The best male by far , after extensive testing of the female progeny of each outcross, was the 3rd male we called the fof3 male ( father of fuel3). It passed on the best quality and most potent high of the 5 males, also the best chances of a great tric field and amazing flavor combinations.

We have yet to find a male to rival this one used and for security reasons had to slow our progress. The origional test crosses we found , whilst having a large and varied hybrid ranges, contained absolute gold in our opinions, based on our tastes. Since then our resources have been spent stabalising the gold within these new lines and bringing flower times down whilst retaining the super strong quality sativa high. Most females within these lines now still contain traits traced all the way back to the fof3 male, the most prevelent being the intence sativa high that hits in wave after wave after wave. We have found the two of the new lines to have the most potent form of this high, that being the zoidfuel line ( the zoidberry clone x fof3 male) ( now at f4 but the yield is starting to suffer for the stability) and the white fuel line ( bi mother line x fof3), at f3 and still yielding well, but we still cant get it not to stretch without outcrossing a new trait into the genepool. Having said that the primary priority for selection is potency, type of high and quality of high equaly, all other traits are ranked below in selection.
The harvest window is also quite large and versitile on all these lines. Anyways i could rave on all night ( sativas lol, gotta love em), but i will save more info for later, along with further pics and documantation
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ha! sweet mate, all the best with the grow, i'll be pulling up a seat and can't wait to see some pics
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Sweet m8, cant wait to see how they do for you.
One thing on the info from me you posted, i messed up and typo'd the make up of the zoidfuel is actualy the zoidberg clone, not the zoidberry, i always get em mixed up, i shouldnt have named them so closely lol.
Since i lost the help of the old crew( they all have retired to more mellow less stressed lifestyles lol) i have had less resources so things take abit longer. Progeny testing is the only male selection technique in cannabis breeding that truely works, and it stretched my limits back then with a crew to help me, so now i use the only alternative imho, i use all males and dont select on the male side at all unless i can undertake a program of progeny testing. Now it does make it hard to keep parents ( imagine the plant numbers from all the males of all the lines, the current gen of z99 has 36 parents), but what one can do is a bigg male flowering run and store alot of pollen for future seed runs with the selected fems kept in clone form. Anyways im rambling again lol ty for testing em m8 and ty for posting the info m8.
One thing i have to say though to all that grow zoid or its crosses, dont let it get to close to indoor lighting, its like feeding those gremlin things after midnight lol, they will go feral( maybe nannas and funky assed growth) if they are exposed to too higher light intesities from any high intensity indoor lighting( hps , mh), outdoors never sees this prob ever and i cant seem to extinquish it from the line without taking alot of the special feelgood high away, and thats the core trait of the zf line that can never be lost and why i value this line so highly, zf isnt for getting off ones face, but is the piece of gold that flashes on ones soul.
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:48 AM #7
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Sweet m8, cant wait to see how they do for you.
One thing on the info from me you posted, i messed up and typo'd the make up of the zoidfuel is actualy the zoidberg clone, not the zoidberry, i always get em mixed up, i shouldnt have named them so closely lol.
Since i lost the help of the old crew( they all have retired to more mellow less stressed lifestyles lol) i have had less resources so things take abit longer. Progeny testing is the only male selection technique in cannabis breeding that truely works, and it stretched my limits back then with a crew to help me, so now i use the only alternative imho, i use all males and dont select on the male side at all unless i can undertake a program of progeny testing. Now it does make it hard to keep parents ( imagine the plant numbers from all the males of all the lines, the current gen of z99 has 36 parents), but what one can do is a bigg male flowering run and store alot of pollen for future seed runs with the selected fems kept in clone form. Anyways im rambling again lol ty for testing em m8 and ty for posting the info m8.
One thing i have to say though to all that grow zoid or its crosses, dont let it get to close to indoor lighting, its like feeding those gremlin things after midnight lol, they will go feral( maybe nannas and funky assed growth) if they are exposed to too higher light intesities from any high intensity indoor lighting( hps , mh), outdoors never sees this prob ever and i cant seem to extinquish it from the line without taking alot of the special feelgood high away, and thats the core trait of the zf line that can never be lost and why i value this line so highly, zf isnt for getting off ones face, but is the piece of gold that flashes on ones soul.
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cheers mate ive edited the typo above

light intensity shouldnt be a problem mate as these are going outside at some stage to do there thing and hopefully get as big as the mazar beast from last year
if i get enough males of the Z99 i would like to cross them across a SWT3 i have access too will see

soulfood mate it trully is a blessing
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Hi m8, the z99 will become monsters outdoors given the season and sun. The mbs will be stouter but still a nice full season plant, the stink might be a prob on certain expressions of the mbs though.
The sweetooth cross sounds like it would be very nice, from what i have seen of the swt3 it should add loads of yield and aroma, and not dominate the z99 high.
I got a bunch of those mazar beans from W to play with aswell, mainly to cross to the new afghan line W got back into aus through a soldier friend that served in afghanistan , that i am now starting a couple of open pollenation gens on, so W and i can work with it in big numbers to bring a new non seedbank afghan line to the scene.
Anyways m8, cant wait to see em flower for you
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Hope you can find something in those indica lines worthy of mating to the sativa lines moon , a nice landrace indica should be excellent to work with your landrace sativa lines .
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hey all,hey squiggles,looking forward to seeing this one! should be most intresting,big ups to moon andwally!
hey moon,how are,hope all is well up your way!
good to see you about the boards m8!
anyway,good luck with the grow,peace all...sensient
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