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Old 06-15-2010, 10:47 PM #1
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Question Shopping and finding supplies?

Hei,

I'm not a native Finn and my Finnish is not very good so I'm posting this in English. I hope you understand.

This post is a follow up to my previous post regarding shipping and customs. I have my precious seeds safely stored but I need to learn about the Finnish names for products used in growing.

I haven't decided whether I will use hydroponics or home-made aeroponics or plain soil yet... I would like to ask for any advice on where to obtain these products, and what they would be called in Finnish.

My grow would be small scale (1-2 plants in a cabinet/wardrobe.)
  • CFL lights in the right color spectrum. - K-Rauta has some, but not the correct light spectrum for plants.
  • Grow soil, nutrients, etc. - No idea where to get nutrients or what they would be called.
  • Net pots because I am considering aeroponics on a small scale (see Bucket Bubbler.) People have reported really good grows using this.
  • Expanded clay pebbles - used inside the net pots above.
  • Rock wool - used for seedlings when using hydro/aeroponics.
  • Fish air pump/air stone. Obviously some pet store...
  • Aluminum tape - Lighproofing/reflective. Would K-Rauta stock this?
  • Fans - I will use 120mm computer case fans.
  • Microscope slides (related do-it-yourself project. Google "$20 Ozone generator")
Any suggestions are welcome. I plan to only use cash, not buy everything at the same time or at one store, spread out obtaining supplies over a couple of months, etc.

Thanks for taking the time to read! Kiitos!

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:16 PM #2
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Hei,[list][*]CFL lights in the right color spectrum. - K-Rauta has some, but not the correct light spectrum for plants.
If you want to use cash your best bet are the hydroshops. Energiansäästölamppu is what it they are called in finnish or esl for short.

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[*]Grow soil, nutrients, etc. - No idea where to get nutrients or what they would be called.
K-rauta, Plantagen or Prisma (during summer). For nutrients go to hydroshops. Or if you want you could also try the garden stores, but they have different brands and I don't know about them.

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[*]Expanded clay pebbles - used inside the net pots above.
kevytsora or leca-sora. Hydrostores, supermarkets...

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[*]Rock wool - used for seedlings when using hydro/aeroponics.
kivivilla.

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[*]Aluminum tape - Lighproofing/reflective. Would K-Rauta stock this?
yes. sähköteippi.

Actually you can get all this stuff from the hydroshops, but it will be a little more expensive. Look around https://www.pavunvarsi.fi/index.php or https://www.puutarhurinverstas.com/catalog/ and you will find most of the items and finnish words for them =)
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:32 AM #3
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Thanks. This is really helpful.
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:36 PM #4
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Sähköteippi is this stuff.


And you want alumiiniteippi?


I'd recommend getting your supplies from head-nature.com

The regular crap like hydroton you can get from K-rauta and stores like that tho.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:41 PM #5
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Hi,

If you're in/near Helsinki/Espoo/Vantaa or in the Tampere area, I'd also check out Biltema and Clas Ohlson for various bits and pieces (cfls,various leccy-related things, aluminium tape) etc.

Leca-sora (clay pebbles w larger pellet size than most "Kevytsora" types) can be found at K-Rauta, too, but in 65 litre bags, which might be a bit too much for your wardrobe needs Tarjoustalo occasionally carry smaller bags of similar stuff ("Ruukkusora", I think they called it).

If you settle on soil and wish to avoid growshops etc - with their (arguably) superior soil, many use "Musta Multa" soil (available everywhere), often mixed with either peat ("Turve") or Taimimulta, an airy soil mix containing a lot of peat. Since Musta Multa is quite heavy in nutrients, it may a tad too strong for seedlings and such, so use the latter for the wee ones..

For nutes, I reckon you'll have to either mail order or pay a visit to a "specialist" store, such as those mentioned above.
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If there is Bauhaus somewhere nearby, I'd check that also.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:20 PM #7
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Yeah Bauhaus often has better prices and more selection. Especially for lights. I also recall seeing netpots there. Can't remember seeing any rockwool cubes there but they did have some kind of (peat?) starter plugs. Rockwool isn't eco-friendly anyway...

I always buy my soil from the grocery store, mainly because I don't have a car though. Pirkka or Rainbow brand for about 2e/10l. They also sell 4l bags of LECA but those are hella-expensive compared to the 25l bags from hardware/gardening stores. Stock up during summer, they won't have any during winter.

Actually I even get a lot of my ferts from the grocery store. Biolan Merileväuute (liquid seaweed extract) and Substral (chemical fertilizer rich in nitrogen, a "veg" fertilizer if you will) are what I use. Haven't been able to find any good "bloom" fertilizer outside the hydro stores yet though, unfortunately.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:51 PM #8
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Thank you everyone for the replies. I do have a Bauhaus somewhat nearby but without a car it could be very painful dragging supplies around and onto a bus. It would be possible with a large backpack or duffel bag though.

I don't need rockwool specifically. Just something to start seedlings in which can then be placed directly into the clay pebbles/soil and have the roots grow out. I think peat starters would be perfectly fine.

I am thinking that I will use the bucket bubbler system because that's very easy to build from some net pots and either a couple of buckets or plastic boxes with lids. It seems to give very good results as long as you're careful not to mix the nutrients too strong and maintain the water level.

Yeah, alumiiniteippi is what I'm looking at for sealing any light leaks from my cabinet/wardrobe. I've yet to find one that is exactly the right size yet... Perhaps I might find something by wandering around the bedroom/living room section of Ikea.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:31 PM #9
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Tietääks joku onks niitä Diamond heijastimia jossain saatavilla, mieluiten sellanen pienempi et sais 400w natille?

Niit oli pispalanpalmussa joku viikko sit vielä mut heti ku oli massit räpylässä ni ei näkyny enää..

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does someone know if Diamond reclectors are available in somewhere, i prefer the smaller one for 400w?

There were these in pispalanpalmu like a week ago, but the time i got money they were sold out or something..

Here i found the bigger one, but i need the smaller -> https://www.head-nature.com/04430
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Old 06-22-2010, 04:17 AM #10
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I managed to find a few items at Bauhaus: Ruukkusora, net pots, seedling starter plugs, and a seedling starter container (humidity dome.)

Ruukkusora was available in a 25L bag but I just brought two of the smaller 4L bags. It's a bit more expensive but easier to carry. The net pots I found were available in 15 cm and 25 cm. I brought two of each but I am hoping the smaller ones will be okay to use?

I couldn't find any rockwool cubes but instead found a packet of 30 disc-shaped seedling starter plugs for about 3 euros. I believe they are peat but I haven't translated the packaging yet. They look very much like this product. Have any of you used peat plugs for starting seedlings? (Not clones.)

I'm wondering whether I should keep looking for rockwool because I have read that the PH of peat is not correct for seedlings. It does seem strange for a seedling starter product to not be ideal for seedlings though...

I need to buy a PH tester for hydro/bubble-ponics anyway so I could always test them.
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