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cough_cough_eer · 11-30-2005, 11:00 PM

Well, I know Canna Claus is commin to my house. We have our stockings up.

My cat thinks the big one is hers.

Verite · 12-01-2005, 02:18 AM

I prefer to mix the truth with a childs imagination. When they ask where Santa is when hes not around for christmas I tell them hes hiding from death and taxes.

I do think its kind of funny to quantify projecting complex adult thoughts and relationships into the mind of a child where they are fairly incapable of understanding the complexity of it.

I suppose there would be alot of problems if kids learned everything they knew from their own parents, fortunately for many they have other external influences.

12-01-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Verite

I prefer to mix the truth with a childs imagination. When they ask where Santa is when hes not around for christmas I tell them hes hiding from death and taxes.

I do think its kind of funny to quantify projecting complex adult thoughts and relationships into the mind of a child where they are fairly incapable of understanding the complexity of it.

I suppose there would be alot of problems if kids learned everything they knew from their own parents, fortunately for many they have other external influences.

I think you underestimate the abilities of childrens' minds... The issue at hand imho is dumbass parents passing their own ignorance to the next generation... I will fully indulge my childs imagination... and I will never respond to a legitimate question with bullshit... My child had enough sense early on to realize there was no santa... when he Asked we questioned him enough to see that he knew, made sure he really wanted the truth, and then told him... We still Play santa, but he knows fully well that it is play and fully enjoys playing it... When he was told the truth, he felt empowered and vindicated, because he had already figured it out... He was 5... and he was told not to tell other kids...
BTW when he asked about my backroom garden I was honest about that too... I trust my son and he trust his parents... He knows that no matter what we will not bullshit him, and he knows how to keep the secret too, because he knows how important it is...
How can it be the wrong thing to encourage our childrens ability to 'figure it out'? How can it be the wrong thing to deal with our kids with honesty? Imagination is to be encouraged, Without a doubt! But is bullshit to be encouraged as well? How about misinformation? My son has a very active imagination... He uses it to solve problems, figure things out, play games, write stories, build with his lego blocks, and alot of other constructive activities... He does not waste it believing in bullshit...

Verite · 12-01-2005, 11:55 PM

Wow, so when you asked the five year old how he felt he responded with empowered and vindicated? Seems I wasted alot of time on such basic thoughts and emotions like happy and sad at that age.

12-02-2005, 12:07 AM

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boy, that's one of the cool things about being a parent too... We get to screw them up any way we want!...lol...
Just like all of our parents did to us.... :wink:

I am sad that you wasted time Verite, perhaps you can start over now..and....
..be more HaPPy! :smile:

12-02-2005, 01:45 AM

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Wow, so when you asked the five year old how he felt he responded with empowered and vindicated? Seems I wasted alot of time on such basic thoughts and emotions like happy and sad at that age.

No, Smartie pants, I was not quoting him... it was actually more to the effect of 'aha! I knew it' and 'why do other kid's parents lie to them?'... When we assume our children dumbasses, we do them a grave disservice... Garbage In, Garbage Out...

12-02-2005, 05:14 AM

I still say it's age dependant!!!My 5 year old daughter knew a Santa Claus,Easter Bunny,the whole nine yards.My NOW 10 year old daughter,Knows all those things and realizes they are fantasy.I think a world where 5 yr old kids are told Santas a sham made by the toy makers to make more money would be quit bland.It's not garbage in,garbage out...it's love and nurturing in,healthy happy adult out!I dont see the need to rob kids of there naivity so soon,fact thats what I thinks wrong with the world,buncha 6 yr old 30 yr old midgets runnin around.But thats just me,LOL,I'm just like my parents,by know everyone knows were IBL's!!!

Harry Gypsna · 12-02-2005, 05:34 AM

This is a funny thread to read through...ive been in stitches half of the time lol....
Oh incidentally......father Christmas is a legitimate old tradition.....but the modern image in red and white was coca colas doing.... he was never red and white until coca cola used him for advertising...
...Well at least i know what that dog with a second head in the middle of its back was up to now , like the zebra dance hahaha

12-02-2005, 05:39 AM

That's funny Red, Your daughter is the same age as my son... Better watch out, I tell him the truth about everything,

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And He was told nothing of any shams... He was told Santa is a fun game we play around christmas time...

potheadpixie · 01-18-2006, 10:27 PM

I think taking them there at all under the pretense that it's ok to keep animals in zoos desensitizes children.

11-30-2005, 11:00 PM	#21
cough_cough_eer Anita Bonghitt Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,937	Well, I know Canna Claus is commin to my house. We have our stockings up. My cat thinks the big one is hers. __________________ ~The Avatar Thread~ Why is it that rich people are concidered eccentric and poor people are just wierd????
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12-01-2005, 02:18 AM	#22
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	I prefer to mix the truth with a childs imagination. When they ask where Santa is when hes not around for christmas I tell them hes hiding from death and taxes. I do think its kind of funny to quantify projecting complex adult thoughts and relationships into the mind of a child where they are fairly incapable of understanding the complexity of it. I suppose there would be alot of problems if kids learned everything they knew from their own parents, fortunately for many they have other external influences. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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12-01-2005, 11:55 PM	#24
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Wow, so when you asked the five year old how he felt he responded with empowered and vindicated? Seems I wasted alot of time on such basic thoughts and emotions like happy and sad at that age. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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12-02-2005, 05:14 AM	#27
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I still say it's age dependant!!!My 5 year old daughter knew a Santa Claus,Easter Bunny,the whole nine yards.My NOW 10 year old daughter,Knows all those things and realizes they are fantasy.I think a world where 5 yr old kids are told Santas a sham made by the toy makers to make more money would be quit bland.It's not garbage in,garbage out...it's love and nurturing in,healthy happy adult out!I dont see the need to rob kids of there naivity so soon,fact thats what I thinks wrong with the world,buncha 6 yr old 30 yr old midgets runnin around.But thats just me,LOL,I'm just like my parents,by know everyone knows were IBL's!!! Last edited by RED145; 12-02-2005 at 05:16 AM..
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12-02-2005, 05:34 AM	#28
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	This is a funny thread to read through...ive been in stitches half of the time lol.... Oh incidentally......father Christmas is a legitimate old tradition.....but the modern image in red and white was coca colas doing.... he was never red and white until coca cola used him for advertising... ...Well at least i know what that dog with a second head in the middle of its back was up to now , like the zebra dance hahaha __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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12-02-2005, 12:07 AM	#25
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	.... boy, that's one of the cool things about being a parent too... We get to screw them up any way we want!...lol... Just like all of our parents did to us.... :wink: I am sad that you wasted time Verite, perhaps you can start over now..and.... ..be more HaPPy! :smile:
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12-02-2005, 05:39 AM	#29
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	That's funny Red, Your daughter is the same age as my son... Better watch out, I tell him the truth about everything, ... And He was told nothing of any shams... He was told Santa is a fun game we play around christmas time... Last edited by Grat3fulH3ad; 12-02-2005 at 05:42 AM..
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01-18-2006, 10:27 PM	#30
potheadpixie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 116	I think taking them there at all under the pretense that it's ok to keep animals in zoos desensitizes children.
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