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BushyOldGrower · 11-17-2005, 09:28 PM

First let me say that this thread is about the practice of buddhism and what I plan to show those interested aren't my opinions. Although I may not be qualified to teach the tenets of buddhism yet my intention is to show how some buddhists practice buddhism daily.

This is about what I say in the morning and the text are shown in the pics. If you are interested enlarge and read the english version. I always chant toward the east and in the language but then I read what it meant to make it sink in. This is Gongyo according to the followers of the lay organization SGI.

I am not a member but I do this gongyo in an effort to bring out the inner buddha in myself. Daily in the morning and evening is best but any chanting or thinking of "nam myoho renge kyo" will help anyone IMHO. It helps to understand as much as you can but whatever is too tough for a person can be left without worry. If you see something here you wish to investigate let me know. I can refer you to our chanting guru who is my teacher and he would say he isnt a teacher either. His teacher is Sokai Gakai I believe and these teachings arent that controversial.

See of you like the spirit of gongyo and let me show you what nam myoho renge kyo means. It means more than this though...

I always wondered what practicing buddhism meant and it means more than this but here is much of what is done by a group of buddhists I respect. They believe that we all can reach enlightenment in this life and I quite agree.

Its hard to read, let alone write the truths encompassed in the three great secret laws and most have never heard of the three treasures.

Who was a buddha is always in question as he keeps returning and indeed never leaves but appears to leave for a time. If you understand that these doctrines came from 500 years previous to Christ you can see where he got some of his progressive ideas IMO. His doctrine of non violence for example.

To me the one is the one and he is the father of us. Divisions in differing religions are an obstacle to seeking truth but remember that if you seek you shall find. All rivers lead to the same deep sea of truth.

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo to all the older folks...we have the least time left.

Before we do it over again. BOG

ripit · 11-17-2005, 10:01 PM

brothers in spirit at least!

BushyOldGrower · 11-17-2005, 10:13 PM

There are other teachers and great masters. To me truth is to be found where you find it and I can't tell you what's true but I know it when I see it.

Some things just aren't debatable and many of these things are commonly believed by most people and religions. Certainly Jesus would Love Buddha and Buddha would at least respect Jesus for his sacrifice. BOG

11-17-2005, 10:29 PM

BOG I think I have expsressed to you on a couple of occasions my interest in Buddhism. I may be wrong but I was under the impression that Jesus was raised experiencing many different religions. Of course Christianity does not tell us this and they wouldn't. I could be wrong.

Mo,

LadyOlive · 11-17-2005, 11:11 PM

Hey Bushy,

I see this in your posts..... sweetie what does it mean? Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Thank you kindly,
LadyOlive

BushyOldGrower · 11-17-2005, 11:21 PM

First read the google version at the top and then I can try to tell you. The trouble is that I am still learning the full meaning myself because nam myoho renge kyo encompasses the heart of the lotus sutra and that means its essential essence. To try and state it myself has been a task never completed because I can't do it.

The whole concept is big and if you read the gongyo you will read that only buddhas can fully understand. The thing is that it also says accessing this knowledge while hard to do isnt impossible. I know it isnt impossible but I cant write you the answer.

You can access the place of knowledge and understanding and special insights can come to you but learning how to do this starts with chanting nam myoho renge kyo and just this will be enough to strengthen and prove itself to you. Follow your intuitions if you seek this truth and you should as do I.

Can even a real expert remember and hold it all in one thought? Its very difficult when inbody but in an out of body experience things can be done not normally possible.

Nam means "devotion to" but to what? To the highest and most sacred laws of the universe that are the basis of our reality. Tom Pass the Doobie told me that when I asked but its a lot more. That is still just a short version like simple stuff we teach to kids. He knows my heart is good and I know he has much knowledge as well as being good as a fine teacher himself.

Perhaps some others will help me try to answer that question. The three great secret laws are good. One of them is that a buddha lives forever you know. BOG

**guineapig** · 11-17-2005, 11:33 PM

when you read certain passages of the New Testament in Ancient Ethiopian script (Coptic Church version) you get a sense that Buddhism and the teachings of Jesus have much in common.....the language is much much more prescise and the text hasn't endured centuries of translations and censorship and other actions that has really changed the original messages......interesting stuff here......-gp

11-17-2005, 11:33 PM

Imo,
Not that anyone gives a shit,religon and politics should be kept out of "open" forums.Now before anyone gets all pissy with me and throws me in el slammo,I'm not stirring shit or flamming anyone here,I know I dont have to read the post or come here again.I'm glad Bog and others have found there god,some of us have differing views and some dont believe at all.Some would get angry about using Jesus name in a poll about "do you think Jesus was a Buddhist".Obviously I have my own opinions,NO!!Point is,same reason ya dont talk about it in a bar is the same reason ya shouldnt here.Fights occur,people take there god seriously and everyone has a different answer.Lets remember,Budda might have been around before Jesus,but he wasnt here before Jesus's father!He,being God,created Budda and all other things,the only way to the father is thru the son.Thats one story,I know lots others,the turtle story for example,etc etc.
"Certainly Jesus would Love Buddha and Buddha would at least respect Jesus for his sacrifice"
I learned all I need to know about Buddhism from that statement.Jesus does love Budda and all of you!And I'm sure he appreciates the respect from Budda. Love RED145

11-17-2005, 11:55 PM

Red - I respect the hell outta your opinon. However, BOG isn't trying to shove anything down anyones throat - if he was, I'm sure it wouldn't have stayed around long enough for you to post.

If this type post bothers you, I recommend that you take your own advice:

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I'm not stirring shit or flamming anyone here,I know I dont have to read the post or come here again.

By all means, feel free to start your own informative post regarding your beliefs...

Ya'll keeper' Green & Stay Safe!

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11-18-2005, 12:06 AM

Gunny,
I thought so,I never said he was shoving it down any throats Gunny,I was mearly making my opinion known,I'm still allowed that rite?I believe I started my post by saying,In My Opinion,thats all it was,everyone else gets too say whats on there mind,why am I different.Bog knows I love him,just sayin this is an marijuanna growing site,unless budda grew pot,I dont see the relavance.

It's just my opinion,no ones shoving anything down anyones throat.that is unless the old lady comes over tonite!!

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11-17-2005, 09:28 PM	#1
BushyOldGrower Bubblegum Specialist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: IN a cave in the Rocky Mountains Posts: 8,010	For Budding Buddhists...not to shove it down your throat! First let me say that this thread is about the practice of buddhism and what I plan to show those interested aren't my opinions. Although I may not be qualified to teach the tenets of buddhism yet my intention is to show how some buddhists practice buddhism daily. This is about what I say in the morning and the text are shown in the pics. If you are interested enlarge and read the english version. I always chant toward the east and in the language but then I read what it meant to make it sink in. This is Gongyo according to the followers of the lay organization SGI. I am not a member but I do this gongyo in an effort to bring out the inner buddha in myself. Daily in the morning and evening is best but any chanting or thinking of "nam myoho renge kyo" will help anyone IMHO. It helps to understand as much as you can but whatever is too tough for a person can be left without worry. If you see something here you wish to investigate let me know. I can refer you to our chanting guru who is my teacher and he would say he isnt a teacher either. His teacher is Sokai Gakai I believe and these teachings arent that controversial. See of you like the spirit of gongyo and let me show you what nam myoho renge kyo means. It means more than this though... I always wondered what practicing buddhism meant and it means more than this but here is much of what is done by a group of buddhists I respect. They believe that we all can reach enlightenment in this life and I quite agree. Its hard to read, let alone write the truths encompassed in the three great secret laws and most have never heard of the three treasures. Who was a buddha is always in question as he keeps returning and indeed never leaves but appears to leave for a time. If you understand that these doctrines came from 500 years previous to Christ you can see where he got some of his progressive ideas IMO. His doctrine of non violence for example. To me the one is the one and he is the father of us. Divisions in differing religions are an obstacle to seeking truth but remember that if you seek you shall find. All rivers lead to the same deep sea of truth. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo to all the older folks...we have the least time left. Before we do it over again. BOG __________________ BushyOldGrower Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Breeder of BOG Seeds ...bogland72@gmail.com Get my book, "Bonanza of Green" @googleplay.com Disclaimer: "I KNOW NOTHING!"
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11-17-2005, 10:01 PM	#2
ripit Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: idaho Posts: 30	brothers in spirit at least! __________________ keep yer mutha outta my yard an i'll keep my yard outta ya mutha!
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11-17-2005, 10:13 PM	#3
BushyOldGrower Bubblegum Specialist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: IN a cave in the Rocky Mountains Posts: 8,010	There are other teachers and great masters. To me truth is to be found where you find it and I can't tell you what's true but I know it when I see it. Some things just aren't debatable and many of these things are commonly believed by most people and religions. Certainly Jesus would Love Buddha and Buddha would at least respect Jesus for his sacrifice. BOG __________________ BushyOldGrower Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Breeder of BOG Seeds ...bogland72@gmail.com Get my book, "Bonanza of Green" @googleplay.com Disclaimer: "I KNOW NOTHING!"
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11-17-2005, 11:11 PM	#5
LadyOlive Cherokee Maiden Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Not where I'd like to be yet Posts: 95	Hey Bushy, I see this in your posts..... sweetie what does it mean? Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Thank you kindly, LadyOlive __________________ Lifes journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out shouting, "Holy Shit...... what a ride"! "Don't look at me.... I'm fucked up on cornbread" Quote from "Weeds"
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11-17-2005, 10:29 PM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	BOG I think I have expsressed to you on a couple of occasions my interest in Buddhism. I may be wrong but I was under the impression that Jesus was raised experiencing many different religions. Of course Christianity does not tell us this and they wouldn't. I could be wrong. Mo,
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11-17-2005, 11:21 PM	#6
BushyOldGrower Bubblegum Specialist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: IN a cave in the Rocky Mountains Posts: 8,010	First read the google version at the top and then I can try to tell you. The trouble is that I am still learning the full meaning myself because nam myoho renge kyo encompasses the heart of the lotus sutra and that means its essential essence. To try and state it myself has been a task never completed because I can't do it. The whole concept is big and if you read the gongyo you will read that only buddhas can fully understand. The thing is that it also says accessing this knowledge while hard to do isnt impossible. I know it isnt impossible but I cant write you the answer. You can access the place of knowledge and understanding and special insights can come to you but learning how to do this starts with chanting nam myoho renge kyo and just this will be enough to strengthen and prove itself to you. Follow your intuitions if you seek this truth and you should as do I. Can even a real expert remember and hold it all in one thought? Its very difficult when inbody but in an out of body experience things can be done not normally possible. Nam means "devotion to" but to what? To the highest and most sacred laws of the universe that are the basis of our reality. Tom Pass the Doobie told me that when I asked but its a lot more. That is still just a short version like simple stuff we teach to kids. He knows my heart is good and I know he has much knowledge as well as being good as a fine teacher himself. Perhaps some others will help me try to answer that question. The three great secret laws are good. One of them is that a buddha lives forever you know. BOG __________________ BushyOldGrower Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Breeder of BOG Seeds ...bogland72@gmail.com Get my book, "Bonanza of Green" @googleplay.com Disclaimer: "I KNOW NOTHING!"
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11-17-2005, 11:33 PM	#7
guineapig Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In spite of my rage I am still just a rodent in a cage Posts: 4,601	when you read certain passages of the New Testament in Ancient Ethiopian script (Coptic Church version) you get a sense that Buddhism and the teachings of Jesus have much in common.....the language is much much more prescise and the text hasn't endured centuries of translations and censorship and other actions that has really changed the original messages......interesting stuff here......-gp
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11-18-2005, 12:06 AM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Gunny, I thought so,I never said he was shoving it down any throats Gunny,I was mearly making my opinion known,I'm still allowed that rite?I believe I started my post by saying,In My Opinion,thats all it was,everyone else gets too say whats on there mind,why am I different.Bog knows I love him,just sayin this is an marijuanna growing site,unless budda grew pot,I dont see the relavance. It's just my opinion,no ones shoving anything down anyones throat.that is unless the old lady comes over tonite!!
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