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11-16-2005, 07:37 AM

Hello all!

I've started my second grow, this time with a couple of Sadhu started from seed.

The plants are about 6 wks old (a bit runty I think -I'm still learning the ropes), although in good health up to now.

The plant in the pic is at the 6th-7th node (no alternation yet) and no preflowers.

I have it under a 400w MH conversion bulb in an air-cooled hood, located approx 4-5 inches above. I'm on a 18/6 veg lighting schedule.

Ambient temps rarely rise above 75 deg. F, and rarely dip below 65 deg. during the dark phase. Relative Humidity runs between 40-55%

Fertilization is light, every 3rd watering or so with a variety of chemical and organic fertilizers and liquid seaweed. The plant was most recently watered with a 1/4 strength dose of FF GrowBig and a full dose of Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed. Because the plant was needing to be watered every 2 days, I decided to repot in a 4.5 gal. container with a 5/3/2 ratio soilless mix of Peat/Perlite+Vermiculite/Worm Castings pH adjusted to 6.8 with dolomitic lime.

In the past 2 days I've noticed a discoloration on the fan leaf furthest to the right in the picture...let's play "Name that Deficiency"

Does anyone out there have any advice for growing Sadhu? It seems to be a phosphorphile, as I haven't been able to get the purple out of the fan-leaf stems. Has anyone else noticed this?

Any advice is welcome and appreciated.

11-17-2005, 05:01 AM

Never mind, I've found the culprit...I needed to boost the K and adjust pH...

The Sadhus are smelling nice-n-hashy, though :-)

MandalaMike · 11-17-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by El Cabong

Never mind, I've found the culprit...I needed to boost the K and adjust pH...

The Sadhus are smelling nice-n-hashy, though :-)

Hi,

Thanks for stopping by and showing us your grow.
I was also going to tip on pH first and then go through the usual check list with you. But now it seems you have found the solution already. Would be great if you keep us posted on further developments. The plant looks great by the way. :wink:
Have a good grow!

Mike

11-17-2005, 09:27 PM

Thanks for the reply...I have heard form others that pH could be an issue. I've added some requisite nutes and am slowly lowering the pH. I have it down to 6.6 now, on it's way to around 6.2. I don't want to shock the poor thing, so I'm trying to lower the pH gradually. Unfortunately, the problem areas have spread and the plant is not as pretty as before, but I think it'll survive. It's sibling is slowly catching up.

MandalaMike · 11-19-2005, 12:11 PM

You don't have to worry about shocking the plant by lowering the pH immediately to the right level. This helps the plant assimilate all nutrients again quickly for healthy growth. You should test the pH of the drain water from the pot to see what the value is in the root zone after watering. This will give you an idea of what's going on inside the pot and how far you need to lower the pH.
Also make sure that your EC levels are not too high. Symptoms like this can also be an indication of salt buildup.

11-21-2005, 04:03 AM

Will do, thanks. I am also brewing up some organic tea to encourage the microbial activity to help out.

11-27-2005, 09:22 PM

Well, plant #1 (the one depicted above) is back in a healthy state, though is showing that it is a male :( Sadhu #2 (not depicted) which is a more indica pheno, is a female

and has not suffered the deficiencies of plant #1

12-02-2005, 08:03 AM

Hi Mike (or anyone else out there with relevant info)

In flowering Sadhu, what is the earliest one should harvest? If I were to go for something a little less sleepy, would waiting til all the trichs are cloudy be okay?

MandalaMike · 12-04-2005, 03:41 PM

High!
The harvest times for our varieties as indicated in our catalog are quite accurate. You can harvest Sadhu at 55 days if you like. It really depends on how your plant(s) are doing... if they are healthy and don't have any deficiencies/overfeeding, how much light you have been giving them, etc. Under regular conditions a harvest time between 60-65 days is normal. And you might want to wait until then if you see that the plants are still developing a lot of new bud growth. Some plants are a bit earlier than others.
The color of the trichs is not the only indicator. Important is also the flowering rhythm, ie. if any new pistils and buds are appearing. You will see an obvious slowing down of bud growth towards the end of flowering. So don't wait till there is no new flowering at all, but harvest sometime before that.

Grow on,
Mike

12-04-2005, 04:04 PM

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The color of the trichs is not the only indicator. Important is also the flowering rhythm, ie. if any new pistils and buds are appearing. You will see an obvious slowing down of bud growth towards the end of flowering. So don't wait till there is no new flowering at all, but harvest sometime before that.

M.Mike – this is a good point & I am glad you brought it up to your growers / I also commend you on keeping your help desk current; good job & Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all.

11-19-2005, 12:11 PM	#5
MandalaMike Mike Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 736	You don't have to worry about shocking the plant by lowering the pH immediately to the right level. This helps the plant assimilate all nutrients again quickly for healthy growth. You should test the pH of the drain water from the pot to see what the value is in the root zone after watering. This will give you an idea of what's going on inside the pot and how far you need to lower the pH. Also make sure that your EC levels are not too high. Symptoms like this can also be an indication of salt buildup. __________________ www.mandalaseeds.com
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12-04-2005, 03:41 PM	#9
MandalaMike Mike Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 736	High! The harvest times for our varieties as indicated in our catalog are quite accurate. You can harvest Sadhu at 55 days if you like. It really depends on how your plant(s) are doing... if they are healthy and don't have any deficiencies/overfeeding, how much light you have been giving them, etc. Under regular conditions a harvest time between 60-65 days is normal. And you might want to wait until then if you see that the plants are still developing a lot of new bud growth. Some plants are a bit earlier than others. The color of the trichs is not the only indicator. Important is also the flowering rhythm, ie. if any new pistils and buds are appearing. You will see an obvious slowing down of bud growth towards the end of flowering. So don't wait till there is no new flowering at all, but harvest sometime before that. Grow on, Mike __________________ www.mandalaseeds.com
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11-16-2005, 07:37 AM	#1
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Sadhu Help Hello all! I've started my second grow, this time with a couple of Sadhu started from seed. The plants are about 6 wks old (a bit runty I think -I'm still learning the ropes), although in good health up to now. The plant in the pic is at the 6th-7th node (no alternation yet) and no preflowers. I have it under a 400w MH conversion bulb in an air-cooled hood, located approx 4-5 inches above. I'm on a 18/6 veg lighting schedule. Ambient temps rarely rise above 75 deg. F, and rarely dip below 65 deg. during the dark phase. Relative Humidity runs between 40-55% Fertilization is light, every 3rd watering or so with a variety of chemical and organic fertilizers and liquid seaweed. The plant was most recently watered with a 1/4 strength dose of FF GrowBig and a full dose of Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed. Because the plant was needing to be watered every 2 days, I decided to repot in a 4.5 gal. container with a 5/3/2 ratio soilless mix of Peat/Perlite+Vermiculite/Worm Castings pH adjusted to 6.8 with dolomitic lime. In the past 2 days I've noticed a discoloration on the fan leaf furthest to the right in the picture...let's play "Name that Deficiency" Does anyone out there have any advice for growing Sadhu? It seems to be a phosphorphile, as I haven't been able to get the purple out of the fan-leaf stems. Has anyone else noticed this? Any advice is welcome and appreciated.
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11-17-2005, 05:01 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Never mind, I've found the culprit...I needed to boost the K and adjust pH... The Sadhus are smelling nice-n-hashy, though :-)
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11-17-2005, 09:27 PM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the reply...I have heard form others that pH could be an issue. I've added some requisite nutes and am slowly lowering the pH. I have it down to 6.6 now, on it's way to around 6.2. I don't want to shock the poor thing, so I'm trying to lower the pH gradually. Unfortunately, the problem areas have spread and the plant is not as pretty as before, but I think it'll survive. It's sibling is slowly catching up.
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11-21-2005, 04:03 AM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Will do, thanks. I am also brewing up some organic tea to encourage the microbial activity to help out.
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11-27-2005, 09:22 PM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Well, plant #1 (the one depicted above) is back in a healthy state, though is showing that it is a male :( Sadhu #2 (not depicted) which is a more indica pheno, is a female and has not suffered the deficiencies of plant #1
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12-02-2005, 08:03 AM	#8
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Mike (or anyone else out there with relevant info) In flowering Sadhu, what is the earliest one should harvest? If I were to go for something a little less sleepy, would waiting til all the trichs are cloudy be okay?
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