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Old 11-15-2005, 10:11 PM #1
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Smile first time grow advice needed

hi im about to embark on my first grow and have chosen to go with female seeds as i dont wanna have to faff around with males and all that and everything ive heard is really good,

i will be growing under a 400 hps in a room that is 4ft by 6ft floor space and 7 foot high ive got all ventilation and everything sorted and have spent a fair time setting everything out and reading up alot of books on the subject, and was wondering firstly how many plants can i realistically grow in this space? also what strain would suit best, obviously id like soemthing that packs a punch and yields fairly good grapefruit looks really great but is this to ambitious for a first grow as they seem to grow all over the place! or Nl or white widow seem good aswell just looking for what would be best and how many to grow of them,

lastly im a bit confused as to how long to veg these plants as on the site it says can after 2 weeks etc. but people say this results in a really puney little plant if someone could tell me how long to veg the plant that they recommend if that makes sense would be great! id like to keep them short but mature fully, any help will be appreciated thank you very much as im looking to order some seeds asap. regards

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Old 11-15-2005, 10:53 PM #2
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Hi reggaefan

A friend of my has grown grapefruit, the high was great and the taste was a little bit disappointing(i think because she didn't complete her dry periode).
I've taste White widow too, but i can't remeber how it was...
To chose a stain, you have just to find which strain you like. The best strains for me today is Sour Bubble and Sour Diesel.
And be sure the seeds come from a high quality mother plant.
I don't have experience with growing (yet), so i can't help you with the further information on your indoor grow.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:12 PM #3
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Irie reggaefan
I've grown from Female Seeds Grapefruits, White Widow, Nevile Haze and Northern Light X Big bud. And It's all good.
The Grapefruits do taste and smell beautifull. But need to be veged a bit longer.

The Withe Widow is really strong stuff, and grow really fast.


And the Neville Haze do take a leat 10+ weeks flowering


Do you want to grow in a Sea Of Green (many litlle plant).
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Do you want go for SCROG
Veging time depend on many stuff.
Like time ,space watt/lumens
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:24 PM #4
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Hi reggaefan
I've heard that if you grow scrog you need clones...
If you can buy or receive clones you can grow scrog...
If you want a low electricity bill, you can grow scrog with a 150 watt(it work!)
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:29 AM #5
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hi lads thanks for all the help, i think ill be going with white widow as its my first time and id like something that is pretty hardy and maybe try grapefruit after :P yeah i think theres arguement whether sog is sog if you dont use clones becuase there variation between the plants and that, would i still be able to do this kinda of thing from seed? id be interested to hear if you have grown like this cyril as apposed to growing normally how many plants would i put per m2 and how long would i veg for and not sure if this makes sense but how many m2s could a 400 hps handle 1m2, 2m2 of plants say? thanks alot for the help. PS impressive pictures!

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hi guys thanks for all the help, i think ill be going with white widow as its my first time and id like something that is pretty hardy and maybe try grapefruit after :P yeah i think theres arguement whether sog is sog if you dont use clones becuase there variation between the plants and that, would i still be able to do this kinda of thing from seed? id be interested to hear if you have grown like this cyril as apposed to growing normally how many plants would i put per m2 and how long would i veg for and not sure if this makes sense but how many m2s could a 400 hps handle 1/2? thanks for the help lads. PS impressive pictures!
I've never done a real sea of green grow. I think It's possible with (female) seeds. Sure there will be some diference between plant but not that much. With a pack of ten seeds of ex:Northern Light (for the one main cola,not too many branching) you could do a small [color=DarkGreen]sea of green[/COLOR
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Old 11-17-2005, 05:02 PM #7
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hey raggae

I reckon you will get 1 big plant or 2 or 3 smaller ones under a 400W. Anything more will be a waste of seeds really.

I did a 400W grapefruit grow a while back, I vegged for about 6 weeks and topped it twice and it end up like a scrog without the mesh. It ended up with about 15 main buds and was about 5ft high by 3ft x 3ft when it had finished. This was the max footprint my light would cover and the buds on the edges were definately lighter than the ones in the middle.

If you want to use all your floor space you would need 3 400W or 2 600W.

Hope this helps
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Here are 18 plants done with a 400 watter. nlxbb and special skunk. I've used Female Seeds for over 2 years now and look in the organic hydro section to see what they do under a 1000 watter. Will help any way I can were here for the asking.


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Hi reggaefan
I've heard that if you grow scrog you need clones...
If you can buy or receive clones you can grow scrog...
If you want a low electricity bill, you can grow scrog with a 150 watt(it work!)
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aborted - Ya heard wrong. SCROG means Screen Of Green and it does not require clones to use this technique. Run chicken wire (or a net trellis or fishing line in a grid) above the plants and tie the tops down to create a nice even canopy of nugs. You don't have to buy/recieve clones. Plenty of growers cut/root their own from a "mother" plant that is maintained in the Vegetative state.
Reggae Fan - There is no set limit on the time needed to veg. Time has very little to do with the maturity of a plant (unless it's a Ruderalis or Hybrid of as they Auto Flower when they want to) good growing practices has more to do with it. Veg them until you get some good Interior Foiliage and they show a Staggered Phyllotaxy(the top growth will climb instead of the Opposite Phyllotaxy shown on initial growth with the nodes forming directly across the plant from each other) and keep in mind that they will Double or Triple in size from the time that you induce flowering.

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Hi WeedWrapperMan
Thx for the information!!
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