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Originally Posted by Gypsy Nirvana

Inbreeding does hold some potential problems.

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Excellent article Gypsy

[grappleberry]

you guys make me laugh.. haha.. wouldn't a good solution to inbreeding be selecting from a very large population, so not many generations of inbreeding are done, or instead of inbreeding, replicate the original cross.. just ideas from an amateur..

PCE

Dam I love this site!

Great read

Thanks

Bare

great read.

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The Key to inbreeding is knowing when to say when,and to not bottleneck the genepool by using improper selection methods.

Here's a tiny factoid:
Too many backcrosses really fuck things UP,the Grimms got lucky that C99 wasn't an absolute friggin' disaster.
I have urged BOG to reconsider multiple backcrossing,as well-
Reference,in a canine comparison, Doberman Pinschers,in the US,in the late 70s-early 80s....Those already dumb-as-rocks pieces of shit were totally fucking INBRED until their brains basically rattled in their skulls....until they went apeshit and randomly attacked owners....due (simply) to supply not meeting demand,(read:GREED) and asshole 'breeders' were fucking siblings together without regard to what effects it might have on the breed,overall.
(Sound like a familiar gripe??)
Yeah,I thought so,too.
Think that's a fluke?
Let's look at Dalmations-the whole breed should be exterminated,as 80%+ of the entire breed are born deaf and with serious physical defects....
they're all more closely related than the British Royal Family....
It goes to show,that in animals,as in plants,multiple BX's do NOT make for a 'stable' line,they can,and frequently do,make a MESS.

Gosh,this is FUN!

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I learned SO much about breeding over the past few years,especially during (and from) the Sour Diesel Projects.
I learned that there are No Absolutes,and that Art in Breeding is as important as any of the science is....and I learned that the greatest joy of all is that learning never,ever,stops....

[GMT]

I agree that breeding from poor plants leads to poor plants, however lets look at what happens in a closed environment in nature in the way that Darwin did. In the Gallapagus Islands, rather than all the plants and animals dieing off due to inbreeding, they evolved into some of the most beautifull and amazing animals and plants on earth. In breeding in itself is not a bad thing, as it does as you say start the evolutionary forces at work. These mutations can be both good and bad, and selection is of course key. I recently killed off a plant after choosing a very healthy male to breed with. Trouble is he turned out sterile. Great back to the paper towels, but that certainly does not mean that his brother will be. In nature the variations that are not beneficial tend to die out, those that are are kept. It's the very process that brought us into existance, and which determines that some of us die young and some of us live on into old age, and those of us with exeptionally athletic or what ever genes do really well.

Originally Posted by Rezdog

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I learned that there are No Absolutes,and that Art in Breeding is as important as any of the science is....and I learned that the greatest joy of all is that learning never,ever,stops....

Well Said!