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Old 05-21-2010, 11:50 PM #1
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Seed Prices Out of control?

Let me see, they grow weed where it is legal.
They then get to sell the weed.
Then they get to charge 10 11 12 bucks a seed.

A buck or 2 should be more than enough, for these growers.

Let weed be legalized and they will be out on their azz, and it will serve them right.

As an old school Hippie, I am truly disappointed by my fellow heads.
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The same could be said about anything really. Everything is expensive it seems these days..
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i think lots of folks feel the same way.
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Weed is not legal where alot of breeders do their breeding. International distribution probably isn't very legal either. I do not think 100 dollars is unreasonable. Out of a pack of ten you are going to easily pay back the initial investment regardless of the quality of bud.

Granted you did your research, you should be getting solid genetics that took A LOT of time to develop. Also they can't control you selling off/giving away phenotypes for free/for profit either so I feel like this is somewhat factored into the equation. 20 dollars for a pack of ten should be considered a gift, not the statusquo...
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:59 PM #6
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Let me see, they grow weed where it is legal.
They then get to sell the weed.
Then they get to charge 10 11 12 bucks a seed.

A buck or 2 should be more than enough, for these growers.

Let weed be legalized and they will be out on their azz, and it will serve them right.

As an old school Hippie, I am truly disappointed by my fellow heads.


To put it bluntly quit bitching. A candy bar used to cost a dime, gas was 45 cents a gallon, things change get over it.

There's plenty of really good cheap seeds available if you dont have the cash, but in reality a pack of quality seeds has unlimted earning potential so the cost is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

Complaining about it is likely to do nothing anyways, and the value of the euro has dropped quite a bit lately it is a good time to use your dollars to buy seeds.



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Let me see, they grow weed where it is legal.
They then get to sell the weed.
Then they get to charge 10 11 12 bucks a seed.

A buck or 2 should be more than enough, for these growers.

Let weed be legalized and they will be out on their azz, and it will serve them right.

As an old school Hippie, I am truly disappointed by my fellow heads.
It cost money to produce seeds and takes a lot of risk and you are paid for that risk. It is not legal to most breeders. You're also not taking into account that they have to pay for retail space or sell to a store for a percentage. If you feel so strong about this then you should take it upon yourself to start your own seed company and give all your beans away for free and we'll see if you feel the same way after doing the work. You hippies don't think too good sometimes.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:13 AM #8
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I disagree. Most of the stellar varieties that we enjoy today were the result of the work of individuals. They chose to not grow for profit or for the head. Instead they devoted time, space, and energy to creating something special. That is why people chase these cuts. Since it's much easier than popping seeds and searching for that amazing cut.

Anyone can chuck some pollen. I just did it recently myself. Crossed a reclining buddha male from Soma with most of my other strains. I've gathered at least 100 seeds. The thing about it though is that I know nothing about what the results will be. I've not grown any to be able to see what phenos are present. What traits are dominant. What traits are recessive.

If I buy seeds from someone like Breeder Steve. I know what went into these strains, what the phenos will be, what the flowering time is, what the preferred growing method is( i.e. topping, training etc....). I think his price for seeds is very very fair.

There are other "breeders" who are charging what I consider to be too high of a price for work which is not thoroughly tested, doesn't germ, is not consistent or stable etc....Still if someone wants to pay them, that's their choice. I am thankful for ICMAG because you can see what results people are getting. Also they go through several hands, so the price goes up. We don't buy direct from Mosca, we buy from Gypsy. They make the sites and info available, and that costs. They have to make a living as well. It also takes lots of people to run a breeding operation and nowadays no one works for free. So a buck or 2 is not going to do anything for you. People are buying 10 packs, finding a cut, and growing it indefinitely. It's not like you're selling them a piece of bread everyday. Hell a piece of bread costs a buck or two.

I think that 40 for random f2's etc... to 100 for something nice,worked, and proven is reasonable. I've paid more for seeds because it was the only way the cut would be available to me. I don't know anyone who has the MSS clone so I bought the Head MSS X SDV3 for a good chunk of change. To me it was worth every penny. He made something available to me which I could not have guaranteed I would ever see.


P.S. Where I'm from we can't sell weed if it's seeded. I've got a whole bunch full of seeds. It's definitely not for sale. Thankfully I vape, so it's fine for me. No one is trying to smoke seeds. So I don't think they are selling the weed and the seeds. Just the seeds.

Someone once called my friends mom a hippie and she made a point to say. "I was an activist. The difference is hippies just talked about doing things, we actually did them"
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Let me see, they grow weed where it is legal.
They then get to sell the weed.
Then they get to charge 10 11 12 bucks a seed.

A buck or 2 should be more than enough, for these growers.

Let weed be legalized and they will be out on their azz, and it will serve them right.

As an old school Hippie, I am truly disappointed by my fellow heads.
Nothing stopping you from making your own seeds useek , i think the ones for sale are for folks who wont or cant make their own ..
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