[Wendull C.]

Originally Posted by Rondon

I too think its horseshit. Even in med only Michigan really good growers are getting 2500 at the most for super quality indoor grown to perfection. And it has to be cured well for at least 3 or 4 weeks.

Horse shit huh? Keep growing og and the like. 1350 will be more in line with that.

Get a unique pheno you hunted out yourself and tell me horse shit. Have a good one.

[different]

Which dispensary and what strain?

[trippn]

Originally Posted by cannascholar

900 for good organic full sun in humboldt

damn, i can maybe get 800 in cencal for my best organic out.

everybody has cheaper, shittier bud, and all anybody wants is whatever on the ultra low. pretty stupid.

[Wendull C.]

Dispensary is my buissiness. The strains are blue cookies at 28 and blue moonshine at 27. My last cherry pie went at 24. Gone fast.

My best bitch sfv og, i couldve cried when i let 5 go for 6500. Depends on variety, rarity, and as we all know quality. If it is not AAA. Dont bother. These are all ins.

[naturalbornkilr]

From what I hear, outs 5-9, ins 12-18, licensed rec units 28 and up

[HatchBrew]

HMU down to meet. Build a relationship.

[SoulAnnoyed]

Originally Posted by packerfan79

I have a friend who works at a legal grow in Arizona, he post pics of the buds. They are middle shelf at best. They grow stuff like northern lights, white widow, green crack, big bud. Nothing less than 20 years old. No cookies, no OG, no glue. Freaking funny, but sad for the folks who buy it. I sure hope that's not what happens here in California

No they aren't mids. They arent classics either. They are scammer seedbank junk and bagseed nonsense. Below reggie. The market is a complete fraud. You need to see these buds in person. Unflushed overfed sterile medium, flash dried, sprayed to hell, molasses/sweet/floranectar/honey/Budcandy infused, not a spec of Cannabis aroma on 95% of buds. Reggie smokes better than AZ mmj.. No joke I smoked better reggie in an Arkansas jailhouse than AZ med patients have access to. Dispos won't pay for quality here because they sell buds by looks and have quality standards so damn low by controlling the market. Weed aroma/flavor isn't even important in this market anymore. Getting what you paid for doesn't even matter to the legal buyers. The retailer slaps the classic or popular names on tainted bagseed I would not touch for a million dollars, talking about landrace Hawaiian genetics while the bud registers a big fat nothing on the old stoner excitement scale, and smells like fucking dial soap neem and botanicare, smh.

Sativas are even worse. Never seen a mature Sativa in Az dispensaries. They all smell like nutes, hardcore. Premature across the board. Plastic smelling Jack, plastic smelling Green Crack. Pure throat killers, headache weed full of chems. Fall down the stares forgetting your name slurred speech and blue feet teeth hurting hair falling out weed. Pure poison.

I just bought some Chem that was the only strain on the shelf that didn't smell like nutes or pesticides. Its the same genetics as the dankest weed I've ever smoked, but i can barely smell it and it has no flavor. Versus the shit that couldn't be contained by 4 vac bags. But hey I don't have to run puke up after every hit. So it's bomb dank loud fire i guess..

Az mmj is a complete joke and I'm seeing the same shit in Cali. You can visit a dozen random dispensaries before smelling one actual Cannabis aroma. Premature, terpless chemical bud and perfumed buds are the norm now that most purchasers don't give a shit. So much for natural, when all 6 "OGs" at the nearest organic dispensary all smell like deodorant and give the exact effect of vaping deodorant; restricted breathing, vomit, and feeling nasty.

A totally bullshit vertically integrated market in the making, and the producers fighting for exclusive production rights are backed by Monsanto and friends. Are 4k pounds still being produced? Of course. Is a dispensary going to pay even half of that? Fuck no. They have ZERO care for quality. People need to realize that dispensaries aren't for weed heads. Anyone who shops at or sells to dispensaries has lost their mind or never had it. The dispensary market doesn't even count in the weed game. If you needed new customers a la dispensaries, maybe you bit off more than you could chew. The prices are low because low prices are the game of the dispensary. Why somone passionate about weed would give these places their time of day is beyond me. I'll never deal with one. They are offering you 1500 for 3k pounds. You haven't done anything but confirm they are the enemy to your passion, they'd rather sell a strain that looks the same but smells like stagnant water or haybails. Whether they pay 900 or 4000 the bud is retailing 15 a gram either way. They figured out the obvious step to take: pander to the dumbest most senseless customers and fuck everyone who actually cares about weed, on both sides of the counter.

Tldr: Dispensaries grow garbage and sell garbage. It is not a market for quality Cannabis,and I'm lost as to why people hold dispensaries as some sort of standard in the weed game when their whole business model is based on how to sell garbage.

[theJointedOne]

Originally Posted by naturalbornkilr

From what I hear, outs 5-9, ins 12-18, licensed rec units 28 and up

i know of a legal entity purchasing licensed cannabis, they paid 1300 for some amazing organic outdoor, and 100 of them.

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A friend recently bought a pound of outdoor (norcal), he was so excited to get it for $700, was going to sell me some for $100 a z. It was such shit, I had to say no. The buds looked great, but hardly any smell at all. He claimed it was white widow, but looked nothing like the buds I remember in Amsterdam.

It hardly had any taste, except a slight burnt taste, no doubt due to the fires that smoked every outdoor crop last fall. Fortunately I have a small supply of excellent organic Blue Blood to keep me till more recent indoor is available...

But this is the problem as described by Soul Annoyed a couple of posts above.

So unless you know a great indoor grower, or you're one yourself, you're not going to get good, clean smoke at a decent price.

[star crash]

i know some growers in Nor Cal that have been doing biz for 20 years..they can't make barely any $ anymore so they've been renting their land to other growers & then those growers walk away after a season