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Brownpants · 11-09-2005, 06:44 AM

I think I am needing some Magnesium....

Or is it something else?

Verite · 11-09-2005, 10:18 PM

Good pics but a little sparse on the other info. Some detail on what you have done over the last week or so would help. Measurements, environment, etc.

11-09-2005, 10:42 PM

hey there brownpants, How tall are the plants/how big are the pots? ANY small change in my plants growth or apperance and it gets some mineral matrixfrom bio-genisis. good luck

Brownpants · 11-10-2005, 12:25 AM

Here is some more info:

This is happening on a few plants of different strains all in Veg and less than a month old. They are using the same organic soil mix, that is where I think there is something lacking. My mix is composed of peat moss, worm castings, perlite and I add about a cup of bone meal, blood meal, kelp meal, dolomite lime and about half to quarter cup of epsom salts.

I think I am not adding enough epsom salts or I didn't mix it good enough with the soil.

I have added some epsom salts and calcium hydroxide to my last watering, but haven't seen an improvement yet.

I just want to know that I am not missing something?

I will check PH later today to see if it is out and about.

Thanks for the help with this.

11-10-2005, 01:29 AM

hey report back with the pH
from the runoff, and before it goes in

i am curious as to what it reads to myself, i have 1 seedling showing identical symptoms, i believe it's a pH issue (possibly lockout) but i ran out of tests so im winging it LOL i was going to foliar feed some epsom salts (2 tbspns pulverized and dissolved in a gallon of warm water) as my water is super-soft anyway before ferting again, Let us know the verdict, brownpants

cj

Verite · 11-10-2005, 02:03 AM

Imo a plant that young doesnt use that much magnesium. The avg mj plant needs boosted mg between 1-2 weeks before flower and for about half of the flowering time. Before and after those times tends to be too much if supplimented. Then you should know the base ingredients of what you are adding to your mix before you over do some of them. Specifically dolomite lime which is comprised of magnesium and calcium. If you added dolomite lime at a cup per container in addition to a halfcup of epsom salt then you have way too much magnesium and calcium to begin with. Im going on ten+ years of no dolomite lime use and the times I used it before I realize were not necessary.

11-10-2005, 02:12 AM

if you were talking to me my plant is mature, just grown from seed
i also grow in unsupplemented promix/perlite .. it has no added nutrients either..
i foliar feed epsom salts, not saying brownpants should, i just am

let us know that pH , brownpants

cj

Verite · 11-10-2005, 02:19 AM

Sorry CJ the reply was meant for BP.

Brownpants · 11-10-2005, 02:56 AM

I have some PH numbers.

This was taken from the runoff. I added RO/DI water for this PH 7.0.

Plant 1 had a PH of 6.3
Plant 2 had a PH of 6.6
Plant 3 had a PH of 7.2......This was the smallest pot and I added some CaOH and epsom salts yesterday, that is why the PH is above 7.0. (I think)

The lime I use is called "Garden Lime" it is 98% Calcium Carbonate...Which I believe is dolomit lime. I don't think there is too much magnesium in it. 2 or 3%

Verite - I probably am adding too much magnesium, but is it harmful to the plant in higher quantities? I like to get an all-in-one mix made for the whole grow. Saves me from micro-managing the supplements all the time. I add Dolomite lime to act as a buffer mainly, and to my knowledge Calcium carbonate (PH 7) is pretty inert, it isn't very soluble in water and is a good source of Ca.

Captain Jack - I don't like to foliar feed very much.....Just a personal choice. I try and keep things as simple as I can.

11-10-2005, 03:30 AM

no clue brown pants

i will be watchng this thread to see if anyone has any answers

just double-checked-out yer pics and my sick plant looks a bit like your #2 pic but my leaves start to yellow from the bottom up, i see green foliage below the yellow leaves on your plant that have cholorosis.. dunno mang, i may have something different, i think i have N locked out.. also i KNOW for FACT a couple of my plants are lacking mag, and calcium..

if all else fails you may try pm'ing stitch, check the sticky thread by him on the "complete guide to sick plants,pH,and pest troubles" in the infirmary.

good luck again

verite sorry for assuming LOL i have a habit of doing that :-D

cj

good luck bud

cj

11-09-2005, 06:44 AM	#1
Brownpants When government fears the people you have Liberty, When people fear the government you have Tyranny. Join Date: May 2005 Location: North America Posts: 510	I have a deficiency. I think I am needing some Magnesium.... Or is it something else? __________________ Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them. -- Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh
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11-09-2005, 10:18 PM	#2
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Good pics but a little sparse on the other info. Some detail on what you have done over the last week or so would help. Measurements, environment, etc. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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11-09-2005, 10:42 PM	#3
PFCruz Guest Posts: n/a	hey there brownpants, How tall are the plants/how big are the pots? ANY small change in my plants growth or apperance and it gets some mineral matrixfrom bio-genisis. good luck
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11-10-2005, 12:25 AM	#4
Brownpants When government fears the people you have Liberty, When people fear the government you have Tyranny. Join Date: May 2005 Location: North America Posts: 510	Here is some more info: This is happening on a few plants of different strains all in Veg and less than a month old. They are using the same organic soil mix, that is where I think there is something lacking. My mix is composed of peat moss, worm castings, perlite and I add about a cup of bone meal, blood meal, kelp meal, dolomite lime and about half to quarter cup of epsom salts. I think I am not adding enough epsom salts or I didn't mix it good enough with the soil. I have added some epsom salts and calcium hydroxide to my last watering, but haven't seen an improvement yet. I just want to know that I am not missing something? I will check PH later today to see if it is out and about. Thanks for the help with this. __________________ Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them. -- Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh
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11-10-2005, 01:29 AM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	hello brownpants hey report back with the pH from the runoff, and before it goes in i am curious as to what it reads to myself, i have 1 seedling showing identical symptoms, i believe it's a pH issue (possibly lockout) but i ran out of tests so im winging it LOL i was going to foliar feed some epsom salts (2 tbspns pulverized and dissolved in a gallon of warm water) as my water is super-soft anyway before ferting again, Let us know the verdict, brownpants cj
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11-10-2005, 02:03 AM	#6
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Imo a plant that young doesnt use that much magnesium. The avg mj plant needs boosted mg between 1-2 weeks before flower and for about half of the flowering time. Before and after those times tends to be too much if supplimented. Then you should know the base ingredients of what you are adding to your mix before you over do some of them. Specifically dolomite lime which is comprised of magnesium and calcium. If you added dolomite lime at a cup per container in addition to a halfcup of epsom salt then you have way too much magnesium and calcium to begin with. Im going on ten+ years of no dolomite lime use and the times I used it before I realize were not necessary. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay Last edited by Verite; 11-10-2005 at 02:14 AM..
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11-10-2005, 02:12 AM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	hello verite if you were talking to me my plant is mature, just grown from seed i also grow in unsupplemented promix/perlite .. it has no added nutrients either.. i foliar feed epsom salts, not saying brownpants should, i just am let us know that pH , brownpants cj
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11-10-2005, 02:19 AM	#8
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Sorry CJ the reply was meant for BP. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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11-10-2005, 02:56 AM	#9
Brownpants When government fears the people you have Liberty, When people fear the government you have Tyranny. Join Date: May 2005 Location: North America Posts: 510	I have some PH numbers. This was taken from the runoff. I added RO/DI water for this PH 7.0. Plant 1 had a PH of 6.3 Plant 2 had a PH of 6.6 Plant 3 had a PH of 7.2......This was the smallest pot and I added some CaOH and epsom salts yesterday, that is why the PH is above 7.0. (I think) The lime I use is called "Garden Lime" it is 98% Calcium Carbonate...Which I believe is dolomit lime. I don't think there is too much magnesium in it. 2 or 3% Verite - I probably am adding too much magnesium, but is it harmful to the plant in higher quantities? I like to get an all-in-one mix made for the whole grow. Saves me from micro-managing the supplements all the time. I add Dolomite lime to act as a buffer mainly, and to my knowledge Calcium carbonate (PH 7) is pretty inert, it isn't very soluble in water and is a good source of Ca. Captain Jack - I don't like to foliar feed very much.....Just a personal choice. I try and keep things as simple as I can. __________________ Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them. -- Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh
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11-10-2005, 03:30 AM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	no clue brown pants i will be watchng this thread to see if anyone has any answers just double-checked-out yer pics and my sick plant looks a bit like your #2 pic but my leaves start to yellow from the bottom up, i see green foliage below the yellow leaves on your plant that have cholorosis.. dunno mang, i may have something different, i think i have N locked out.. also i KNOW for FACT a couple of my plants are lacking mag, and calcium.. if all else fails you may try pm'ing stitch, check the sticky thread by him on the "complete guide to sick plants,pH,and pest troubles" in the infirmary. good luck again verite sorry for assuming LOL i have a habit of doing that :-D cj good luck bud cj Last edited by CaptainJack; 11-10-2005 at 03:32 AM..
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