[CARE giver]

Why are so many people hating on femenized plants for breeding?

It's part of nature. To think that humans are just now introducing Marijuana to hermied parents is just idiotic. It has happened. Going back thousands of years the seeds you have now had a hermied mom at some point in it's lineage.

[BlueGrassToker]

You can take a female seed plant from a specific line that has been brought about by feminizing, and another seed plant from the same line brought about by regular breeding, and the two don't know any difference between themselves. Nor can we distinguish between the two either physically or genetically, in the lab or otherwise, because there are no differences that distinguish them from each other. They are virtually identical.

I think it may be a matter of people's misinformation more than anything.

[Claude Hopper]

Originally Posted by Wandering Roman

ask and you shall receive Doc!

This cut is over 6 years old today and these pics are 7 months old...


Deadwood is an elite that I created from my initial beta runs of colloidal silver's application in ethylene suppression .



She is as healthy and robust as any so called elite that is out there,,,and I've had them all.


You couldn't make her hermie if your life depended on it!


really what did you think was gonna happen to a cut from femmed creation? was it going to self implode ?? lol!!













































step up to modern thinking,,,,femmed practice when done by somebody with a brain is as good as it gets!!!!



I have a current F1 of Old Sog's Super silver haze x East coast sour Diesel that is so damned good every bean is an elite,,,you literally wrap your head trying to choose which one is the keeper.


I reversed the ECSD clone and made pollen via colloidal silver of course...this went against my better judgement as I usually will never use a mother as unstable as the ecsd cut,,,her history is not what you'd want due to hermies in there...

But I was eager to get that chunky trait she adds to the floral clusters thanks to MSS in her lineage,,,it paid off and there have been no hermies to date...

Hard to argue with that.

Lovely pictures, too.

[smokefrogg]

i am scared of feminized seed for breeding

not sure what method it was done with, but there was an afghan some farmers i know run that was feminized, beautiful giant lovely plant. they tossed lowryder pollen onto it, every single one of the f1 seeds produced a female, the bud was mostly dank from them, but absolutely zero males to try and make f2

also a couple of the cuts we run that came from feminized seed will spit out male parts at the end of flower on occasion

maybe these instances came from females that were stressed in order to self pollenate instead of the colloidal silver and that is why, either way it has kind of scared me from trying to use feminized seed to breed with

[BlueGrassToker]

*lol I have no idea how I ended up placing thumbs down on this post, I guess I need to learn to navigate better.

We have to go through and select suitable parents for breeding from standard seed plants, why would we not have to do the same with feminized seed plants? smokefrogg, all of the issues you described can and do arise from regular seed plants.
You mentioned being scared of feminized seed plants..as do many folks, but look at what you provided us with. Your pals female plants had absolutely nothing to do with all those seeds turning out all female. That was completely the doing of the pollen. And it tells me that the pollen they used was NOT from a male, but rather a plant that expressed intersex. Now, they very well may have chemically stressed a true breeding female to use as the pollen donar...but I highly doubt that or you may have more info than you provided.


Poor selection begets poor offspring, no matter what the source of the seed for the selection plants was.

Actually, the phrase "breeding with seeds" is a misnomer. We don't breed with seeds, we breed with plants. Now, once a plant that comes from a feminized seed germinates, it is now a candidate for breeding and needs to be put under than same scrutiny as any other potential breeding candidate.
The feminized thing is completely after the fact, and when breeding is concerned there is nothing about feminizing to consider. Unless of course you are breeding feminized seeds.

[smokefrogg]

^^^ you could be right on the money, she was stating that the lowryder #2 male was a true male and had no hermie signs, i was not there though and did not see for my own eyes so really who bloody knows. man i really wish one of those afghan x lowryder #2 f1 plants turned out to be a male, c'est la vie, the 1 living afghan x lowryder #2 we have left will thus be back crossed with lowryder #2 pollen, hoping to get some males out of those seeds

re the lr#2, the breeding plan is for something quick that doesn't care about photoperiod, strictly for random seed bomb guerilla grow purposes during the "wrong" time of the year

I've made crosses with regular males and feminised and I have no fear...so much bullshit about something that nobody never really understoud...

hemp is life and life have only one rule : LOVE

so you must love your hemp and godlove will do the rest...

a blue bus had called us ? what's that ?

[stagger lee]

No disrespect to any1 but what it should come down to is WHY pay for seeds that come from a female thats been chemically abused into creating male pollen, when you can buy regular seeds from a perfectly natural proven female?

The only 2 reasons Ive heard are so you dont have to worry about not identifying a male (before it pollenates the females).
And the 2nd reason is wasted space that these males (from reg seeds) take up...

Again no disrespect but come on.. any experienced grower knows its simple to identify a male , especially before it drops! Only new growers think that this is difficult. Its a no brainer?! Newbs are brainwashed into MALES are BAD! females are good...

And the 2nd reason wasted grow space on unwanted males! Again
males show themselves quickly, much quicker than females.. And in many cases males can be pulled while still in late veg/or at least very early flowerin stage... So wasted space is bs cause your staetin from seeds tryin to find the best females, males are long gone before your precious flowerin space comes into play.

Unfortunately most seed custi's are new to growing and dont realize when choosing the only 2 benefits to go feminized just arent worth all the bs. Worried about males? try always looking for your fem females turning herm!

Oh and fems are doing harm to genetics as a whole.1;1 breeding severly limits the diversity within the strains genes ect. were losing many strains that are no longer available as reg seeds. this is the future ,unfortunately!

[marijuanamat]

Most breeders of fem seeds aren't bothered about the harm there doing to the gene pool,its all about the money at the end of the day.

I dont like fems , but at times I have considered feminizing some cali only cuts for a possible move to Haawwii .Theese seeds would be used for breeding.