[TexasToker]

Originally Posted by mg75

organic growing as a whole cannot be done indoors under HPS lights and all the other "perfect" room grows.

really? I am pretty sure that is just your opinion. You say since an HID is not the sun, it is not organic? lol....ok.

You tell that to the multi-million dollar companies that do it.

Organic horticulture
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Organic horticulture is the science and art of growing fruits, vegetables, flowers, or ornamental plants by following the essential principles of organic agriculture in soil building and conservation, pest management, and heirloom variety preservation.

[mg75]

who cares about the multi-million dollar companies... if organic was not the "in" word... they would not use it.

ask them about the genetically modified food/plants they feed "organic" food to.

[mg75]

i wonder if chemicals produce e-coli?

[Centrum]

Organic vs chemical tests side by side scientifically proven that organic does not produce some magically clean product.

Organic vs Chemical taste tests 9:1 Chemical Always out tasted the organic.

I think Organics are like religion once your infected " you are what you believe" and like religion a lot of organic folk will chastize and demonize you for not following or believing them.


You can do 1,000,000,000,000,000 Side By Sides 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Taste tests and prove it so completely undeniably blatant that the chemically fed items produce a better product overall and they would still be in denial.
Which is okay, it doesnt really matter whats better it just matters whats better for you in your mind and what makes you happy at the end of the day.

Best of luck

A) organics are cheaper

B) imbalance in either a organic or inorganic environment will breed a dangerous population of e-coli. Ecoli is present in the gut of many organisms such as reptiles but is kept in check in a naturally balanced system

in fact these disease and outbreaks are due to techniques that don't have the same checks and balances of a healthy soil web

if you like insert the word tomato for marijuana and ill submit all these assertions to the university of your choice for clarification

there is a far greater markup on synthetic nutrients int the sales cycle from manufacture to consumer

the real markup comes when they target pot growers who lack the critical thinking or educational caveats to be able to understand what it is they are buying and why and what the relative opportunity cost of that decision is

which based on the explanations isn't very apparent

im not knocking any grow method, in fact every one has scenario where it is most appropriate.

the apparent lack of applicable relativity speaks volumes about ones experiences with these said techs

Originally Posted by Centrum

Organic vs chemical tests side by side scientifically proven that organic does not produce some magically clean product.

Organic vs Chemical taste tests 9:1 Chemical Always out tasted the organic.

I think Organics are like religion once your infected " you are what you believe" and like religion a lot of organic folk will chastize and demonize you for not following or believing them.


You can do 1,000,000,000,000,000 Side By Sides 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Taste tests and prove it so completely undeniably blatant that the chemically fed items produce a better product overall and they would still be in denial.
Which is okay, it doesnt really matter whats better it just matters whats better for you in your mind and what makes you happy at the end of the day.

Best of luck

absolute bullshit

A) lets see who ran the trial and the tests, the aggregate figures and testing methods

B) most people organic or synthetic don't know much about the art or reducing the ambient nutrient stores in the plant as it enters the end of its life cycle

this can be done regardless of how you feed the plant in a variety of methods

bottom line is its far easier to grow and stop feeding a plant when you feed in your water and your substrate is inert

timing the breakdown of organic materials to be consumed at the end of the life cycle is tough

OUTDOORS environmental cues like temperature SHUTS DOWN the soil web SO IN ESSENCE IT STOPS FEEDING THE PLANT

which forces the magic fall color change and leaf loss but also is indicative for the plant using many of the unpleasant components to harsh smoke like Chlorophyll

feed in your water and not your substrate if you container or indoor garden and you will get your burn as clean as when you stop feeding with synthetics

and also my apologies if I sound inflamed

its not at anyone or any grower, just my perceived misconceptions about organics

I am not saying that organics is the best choice for every garden in every instance

before you judge the source I have grown exclusively in all manners all techs in basically all scenerios

for hydroponics for example, if you use aquashield you are using bacteria that have been extracted from the soil web, the same that are cultivated in organic gardening

i have spent close to 2 decades growing and applying that experience to the marijuana and horticultural products to science of botany and basically the real snake oils are the obfuscation of ingredients that are used in non niche agricultural markets for 4th the price both organic or otherwise

also keep in mind about such a small percentage of the soil web are known that as scientist discover them they are bringing them to market in marketed products

aquashield is the same example I will use

at least 2 of the bacteria they use are newly discovered and have vague information

BUT if you dig deep several researches were done on their effects which detail the discovered relationship they have with the plant

one for example offers resistance to drought when it enters the rhizosphere the other disease resistance

the last caveat to organic gardening for the clandestine gardener who does not practice his craft in a legal climate

buying raw organic materials and making nutrients and micro organisms to support your plants life cycle take you as far off the BUYING MARIJUANA MARKETED SUPPLIES grid as one coudl hope for

if your buying guano at agway im sure your not as worried as my dude buying connoisseur at the local HYDRO store

AND TRUTH BE TOLD

its the only reason i deviated from using synth nutes in the first place

I was tired of having to expose myself as a hydro gardener