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webehi · 05-19-2010, 10:26 PM

I am just adding pure flowers to my DM Gold regimen and am wondering if I should cut out the Max additive so I don't overdo the K. I am also thinking if its most effective as a foliar should I not spray it during the first 2 weeks of flower while I am still using liquid light?

05-28-2010, 02:01 PM

This link shows some grass with defeciency
check out the blue grass 3rd page down
https://www.gcsaa.org/GCM/2005/nov/PD...cc1Cookpdf.pdf

pretty sweet though that it acts as a fungicide
picked some pure flowers up will be trying out this run

found this on another site

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PHOSPHATE AND PHOSPHITE
The recognized, traditional source of phosphorus, as H3PO4, has long been phosphoric acid. Phosphoric acid, when neutralized with a base, such as ammonium or potassium, forms a salt or phosphate. Phosphorous acid also forms a salt when neutralized with a base. The salt is referred to as phosphite, H3PO3, as opposed to phosphate H3PO4.
Because Phosphite has one less oxygen molecule than phosphate, a higher degree of solubility and mobility, within the plant is achieved. This unique characteristic permits phosphites to be rapidly absorbed or taken up across the membranes of plant foliage and/or roots, in both their nutritive and plant protective roles.
Once applied and rapidly absorbed, by the plant, Phosphites undergo an oxidation or conversion process resulting in the continual release of soluble phosphorus. This allows for the beneficially timed utilization of phosphorus, in preparation for critical times when demand by the plant may be especially high or uptake is otherwise impaired.
Potassium Phosphite application results have also shown several other novel characteristics, such as inhibition of mycorrhizal development, accelerating foliar uptake of other cations such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, and most micro elements, when applied in combination, and by supplying more phosphorus per molecule than phosphate.
Potassium Phosphites are generally compatible with most other nutrient and/or pesticide products thus adding to application efficiency and the reduction of spraying costs.

06-18-2010, 01:30 PM

so do you guys think it would be ok to also use other additives with pure flowers or better to just use a bloom base nute with the pure flowers only.

TickleMyBalls · 06-19-2010, 12:20 AM

I use other additives also. my regimen for bloom is this... pure blend pro, silica blast, blast off (first 3 feedings), green fuse bloom stimulator, pure flowers, liquid karma.

06-21-2010, 07:18 PM

anyone seen this stuff yet
TKO 0-29-26 Phosphite 1 Gal
Regularly:
$57.99

On Sale:
$45.99

https://www.extremepumpkinstore.com/

Description:
TKO is a phosphite, a Phosphite itself is a form of phosphorus (P), which is an essential element in plant photosynthesis, root growth, energy storage and protein formation.
Unlike other forms of phosphorus which can become bound in soil, the chemical make-up of phosphite makes it highly available to plants.
Applications of "TKO" Phosphite have been shown to significantly reduce summer stress on greens, TKO quickly enters through the leaves, crowns and roots, It moves through both xylem and phloem, showing its worth by quickly increasing root mass and improving turf vigor.

It, is known to improve plant vigor and growth, fruit quality, and quickly corrects deficiencies.
It strengthens plants immune system, it has growth stimulating effects!
When using TKO I can visibly see increased plant vigor and fruit gains, reduced need for fertilizers, a healthier, more vibrant plant!

kathmandu · 08-21-2010, 03:15 AM

is Pure Flowers a clear liquid or blue color like TKO?

looking for a phosphite solution but dont like coloring agents.

krunchbubble · 08-21-2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kathmandu

is Pure Flowers a clear liquid or blue color like TKO?

looking for a phosphite solution but dont like coloring agents.

clear as water....

TickleMyBalls · 08-21-2010, 04:28 AM

maybe even clearer than water....depending on where you live...

Admiral Canna · 08-21-2010, 05:41 PM

Gettin ready to do a side by side using Pure Flowers. Used it a few times on a few plants but nothing to say thus far. They didn't get it in all their feedings.

It definitely has a weird smell. Kinda like boiled eggs and sulfur. LOL

PoopyTeaBags · 08-21-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krunchbubble

pure flowers.........

krunch just summed it all up... I been using phosphates forever talked to krunch turned me onto pura flowers... all i can say is OMG this shit rocks... ill never use phosphates again... ive also noticed certain plants respond alot better to it while others it seem just like they were still getting phosphate... but like i said never go back.

06-19-2010, 12:20 AM	#24
TickleMyBalls just don't molest my colas.. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Midwest's Best. Posts: 2,706	I use other additives also. my regimen for bloom is this... pure blend pro, silica blast, blast off (first 3 feedings), green fuse bloom stimulator, pure flowers, liquid karma. __________________ Simple tips to grow excellent cannabis Natural guttation on cannabis flowers legal med patient/caregiver “I wound up doing time for something I should have been rewarded for, What I did was a community service, the way I look at it. I was punished for political reasons. Absolutely meaningless. Was I a criminal? No. I was a good member of society. Only my society and the one making the laws are different.”- Owsley Stanley R.I.P If you can heal the symptom, but not affect the cause, it's quite a bit like trying to heal a gunshot wound with gauze

08-21-2010, 03:15 AM	#26
kathmandu Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hitching the Khyber Pass Posts: 953	is Pure Flowers a clear liquid or blue color like TKO? looking for a phosphite solution but dont like coloring agents. __________________ Fineus Funk

08-21-2010, 04:28 AM	#28
TickleMyBalls just don't molest my colas.. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Midwest's Best. Posts: 2,706	maybe even clearer than water....depending on where you live... __________________ Simple tips to grow excellent cannabis Natural guttation on cannabis flowers legal med patient/caregiver “I wound up doing time for something I should have been rewarded for, What I did was a community service, the way I look at it. I was punished for political reasons. Absolutely meaningless. Was I a criminal? No. I was a good member of society. Only my society and the one making the laws are different.”- Owsley Stanley R.I.P If you can heal the symptom, but not affect the cause, it's quite a bit like trying to heal a gunshot wound with gauze

08-21-2010, 05:41 PM	#29
Admiral Canna Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 464	Gettin ready to do a side by side using Pure Flowers. Used it a few times on a few plants but nothing to say thus far. They didn't get it in all their feedings. It definitely has a weird smell. Kinda like boiled eggs and sulfur. LOL __________________ Genetics are the key.

05-19-2010, 10:26 PM	#21
webehi Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 35	I am just adding pure flowers to my DM Gold regimen and am wondering if I should cut out the Max additive so I don't overdo the K. I am also thinking if its most effective as a foliar should I not spray it during the first 2 weeks of flower while I am still using liquid light?

05-28-2010, 02:01 PM	#22
DonkDBZ Guest Posts: n/a	This link shows some grass with defeciency check out the blue grass 3rd page down https://www.gcsaa.org/GCM/2005/nov/PD...cc1Cookpdf.pdf pretty sweet though that it acts as a fungicide picked some pure flowers up will be trying out this run found this on another site DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PHOSPHATE AND PHOSPHITE The recognized, traditional source of phosphorus, as H3PO4, has long been phosphoric acid. Phosphoric acid, when neutralized with a base, such as ammonium or potassium, forms a salt or phosphate. Phosphorous acid also forms a salt when neutralized with a base. The salt is referred to as phosphite, H3PO3, as opposed to phosphate H3PO4. Because Phosphite has one less oxygen molecule than phosphate, a higher degree of solubility and mobility, within the plant is achieved. This unique characteristic permits phosphites to be rapidly absorbed or taken up across the membranes of plant foliage and/or roots, in both their nutritive and plant protective roles. Once applied and rapidly absorbed, by the plant, Phosphites undergo an oxidation or conversion process resulting in the continual release of soluble phosphorus. This allows for the beneficially timed utilization of phosphorus, in preparation for critical times when demand by the plant may be especially high or uptake is otherwise impaired. Potassium Phosphite application results have also shown several other novel characteristics, such as inhibition of mycorrhizal development, accelerating foliar uptake of other cations such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, and most micro elements, when applied in combination, and by supplying more phosphorus per molecule than phosphate. Potassium Phosphites are generally compatible with most other nutrient and/or pesticide products thus adding to application efficiency and the reduction of spraying costs.

06-18-2010, 01:30 PM	#23
highvolt Guest Posts: n/a	so do you guys think it would be ok to also use other additives with pure flowers or better to just use a bloom base nute with the pure flowers only.

06-21-2010, 07:18 PM	#25
highvolt Guest Posts: n/a	anyone seen this stuff yet TKO 0-29-26 Phosphite 1 Gal Regularly: $57.99 On Sale: $45.99 https://www.extremepumpkinstore.com/ Description: TKO is a phosphite, a Phosphite itself is a form of phosphorus (P), which is an essential element in plant photosynthesis, root growth, energy storage and protein formation. Unlike other forms of phosphorus which can become bound in soil, the chemical make-up of phosphite makes it highly available to plants. Applications of "TKO" Phosphite have been shown to significantly reduce summer stress on greens, TKO quickly enters through the leaves, crowns and roots, It moves through both xylem and phloem, showing its worth by quickly increasing root mass and improving turf vigor. It, is known to improve plant vigor and growth, fruit quality, and quickly corrects deficiencies. It strengthens plants immune system, it has growth stimulating effects! When using TKO I can visibly see increased plant vigor and fruit gains, reduced need for fertilizers, a healthier, more vibrant plant!