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Old 04-22-2010, 08:17 AM #1
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a few noob questions

1.Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?

4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?

7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:32 AM #2
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u can veg as long as u want but your plant will soon get way out of control just tyr it ull see most veg until 12 to 18 in just depends what strain u got play around with it

no prob with mothers in soil and goto hydro and youll just have to see how they do under that light should be fine tho

air stone....i never used one my table would drain into my resv and would take quite a bit of air bubbles with it. i used a pump in my resv to circulate it as well

veg your clones when u see mad roots popin out of your cube the more the better then u can pop em right under ur light take it easy on the first few days not too close then go for it

iv never used lst just topping

and ya u can take clones whenever u want as long as they havent flowered yet iv heard of people taking cuts from plants that are flowering and they will revert but i think in the long run youll have shitty results so wouldnt recommend it

and 400w?? idont know im sure u can if your skills are good on training but sounds too small for me i dont think anything under 600 should be used but thats just me. if i had a 400 id prob only have one plant and practice ur training skills try and get like 6-8 zips out of it ................hope i could help!
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:43 AM #3
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Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?
Yes, under ideal circumstances a longer veg means a bigger plant with a bigger rootmass going into flowering, which equals a bigger yeild.
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2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?
Yes, although your wattage will limit growth. I can't see a problem taking clones from a mother grown in soil, and placing it into a hydro setup.

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3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?
Plants like up to twenty percent oxygen at root level. The more oxygen the better.
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4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?
Roots grow anywhere from 7 to 21 days. Past two weeks, some would argue to cull.
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5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?
It is my understanding that SCRog are larger plants with serious training. SOG is lots of smaller plants, with a shorter veg time, and quicker turnaround. I suppose you could train SOG plants, although it wouldn't be my first choice.
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6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?
You can take a clone off a plant in flower. Preferably before week two or three. Remove the flowers, put it under 18+ hours of modest light, and expect to wait longer than if it was from a healthy plant in veg.
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7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?
I would rather grow more, 4, or maybe 6 under a 3x4 footprint. It will be easier to completely fill your footprint, and give you more avenues to train your branches.
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Old 04-22-2010, 01:41 PM #4
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1.Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?

4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?

7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?
  1. The longer you veg the bigger they get.
  2. No worries.
  3. The more O2 the better.
  4. When they have roots, usually about 14 days.
  5. LST and SCROG yes, SOG no.
  6. I can take clones 2 weeks into 12/12 no problems.
  7. You could but a 400W globe only has an effective light footprint of 2.5'x2.5'.
Check out all the grow tutorials and stickeys then have a go.

Keep reading and good luck.
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:38 PM #5
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  1. You could but a 400W globe only has an effective light footprint of 2.5'x2.5'.
Check out all the grow tutorials and stickeys then have a go.

Keep reading and good luck.

couldnt I just hang mylar curtains to make my space 2.5x2.5 to make it better??

thanks for answers guys
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:43 PM #6
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There's not a single question there that can't be answered by extensive reading. Not trying to be a prick, just letting you know that there is an incomprehensible amount of information on this forum about some of the most arcane things you could imagine and it would do you very well to spend as much time possible reading and searching through this website. Asking questions like this will get you started, sure, but to fully understand the concepts you're asking about you need to do your own research. Good luck.
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:08 PM #7
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I agree with jd4083.Its good to ask ???. But I learned most of what I know from reading bout others mistakes. Good luck your at the right place.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:48 AM #8
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um yeah my questions were already answered before you "chimed" in with nothing of use...for your info searching aint as easy as you think ....hell i tried to search for some horror/bad stories of people growing and i got a bunch of nothing but 2 stories.....so yeah thanks for suggesting what i have been doing
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:56 AM #9
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um yeah my questions were already answered before you "chimed" in with nothing of use...for your info searching aint as easy as you think ....hell i tried to search for some horror/bad stories of people growing and i got a bunch of nothing but 2 stories.....so yeah thanks for suggesting what i have been doing
That's because you haven't taken the time to learn the way the search system works on this forum (and all vB-based forums). There are tricks to it.

I was polite to you, there is no reason for you to be a prick to me. Those people offering you suggestions have worked long and hard to acquire that information and likely used their god-given gift of a brain to figure it out. Judging by this thread and this post, you're not only lazy and inept, but also combative without any reason for being that way.

Good luck, and consider adjusting your attitude, as your last post indicates that you are nothing more than a petulant child.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:51 AM #10
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There's not a single question there that can't be answered by extensive reading. Not trying to be a prick.


Yeah all I'm saying is instead of shooin me to do more research and recomending to do things im obvious am still doing seems pointless for you to even post....even after the fact that I got my answers...you werent trying to be a prick then what were you trying to be...helpful? Could of just been quiet if you didnt wanna be a prick...or could of sent me a link to somthing....but i know you have your vast knowledge of forum searching but where am i to turn when i cant find the answers to my questions as fast as you could? thus my post....just cause you say "i dont mean to be a prick" doesnt mean you wont be seen as one depend on what you say after that phrase just some food for thought...anyways i got my answers so im cool n the gang
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