[daheadies]

Heres a pic of the 3 grades from 1 batch, using everclear -
maybe the top layer (best grade/most translucent) was the AA, and then when I started scraping I might have been getting some left over waxes on this dish from when I made budder w/ dried buds hours previous.. I dunno.. does this happen to anyone else?

[daheadies]

Jump- until recently you have been adamant about using fresh over dried materials.. Any idea what the difference was between this time when you got it using dry and the time previous in this thread when it came out runny?

-Whats your take on using trim vs buds? can u get aa using good trim, but not necessarily buds? So far I have only gotten it using bottom buds..

-I think I figured out why my second batch of amber came out in 3 different grades.. I think its cause I used everclear, which is 95%, whereas the previous batch was using 99-100% etoh.. when the everclear evap's it leaves a whiteish film of impurity, whereas the etoh leaves no film. I prefer the everclear because I think it has alcohol less after taste.. guess ill have to do with the occasional opaque shatter..

[daheadies]

(quote from https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....22#post4335222 )

Originally Posted by daheadies

medical-
My buddy that makes it supposedly uses activated carbon for making his amber and it turns out great! and im 99% sure alcohol is not used..

I saw this thread and decided I should make what I had frozen in my freezer as a tribute to JUMP117

ABSOLUTE AMBER SHATTER using Jumps recipe-

Originally Posted by daheadies

pieces soldered together -

[Stonespaceship]

To be sure I understand correctly before I attempt this, this is what I've learned from this thread:

Equipment:
Frozen 99% Isopropyl Alcohol(I'm Californian)
Frozen Ground Weed
Frozen Extraction Jar
Evaporation Jar
Frozen Butane
Coffee Filters

Process:
Step 1
Grind weed, place in extraction jar and freeze. Freeze butane and alcohol.
Step 2
Submerge the weed in butane and cover for 15 minutes.
Step 3
Strain the butane through a coffee filter into the evaporation jar.
Step 4
Evaporate butane to form the concrete.
Step 5
Dissolve concrete into 99% isopropyl alcohol.
Step 6
Freeze solution.
Step 7
Strain frozen solution through a coffee filter.
Step 8
Evaporate solution forming an absolute.
Step 9
Collect the absolute.

Am I missing or adding anything unnecessary? Isn't it dangerous to seal liquid butane in a sealed glass jar? That sounds like a bomb lol.

[jump117]

Hi Stonespaceship!

Process:
Step 1
Do NOT grind weed, place in extraction jar and freeze. Freeze butane. Do NOT freeze alcohol, leave it at room temperature.
Step 2
Submerge the weed in butane and cover but NOT SEALED, regularly shake or stir for 15 minutes (or much longer if use thermos).
Step 3
Strain the butane through a coffee filter into the evaporation jar.
Step 4
Evaporate butane to form the concrete.
Step 5
Dissolve concrete into 99% isopropyl alcohol.
Step 6
Freeze solution.
Step 7
Strain frozen solution through a coffee filter.
Step 8
Evaporate solution forming an absolute.
Step 9
Collect the absolute.

Sure it is very dangerous to seal liquid butane in a jar, I never recommend this.
The cover is not hermetically seal the extractor. Steamy gas must freely go into the atmosphere,
the pressure should not increase inside the extractor, avoid bombs.
In order to minimize the loss of butane and increase the duration of extraction, use a thermos or thermo-insulate your extraction jar.

[daheadies]

few new pics



The stuff thats not amber is stuff from the last scrapes of the plate..


All the pieces molded together

JUMP-
I have heard you go back and forth now about using dry and wet trim.. What really gets me is your picture proof early in this thread when you showed dry and wet using same method, and dry came out gooey... What was different your second go around w/ dry that made it come out amber?? any suggestions? I have yet to get it w/ dry and have tried that many times, but not since I got it w/ the wet stuff.. but im doing it the same way..

[jump117]

In my understanding, amber is a fossilized resin. It is brittle, fragile and splitting to sharp edged shards when broken.
I just do not know what name to call this thing when amber is flexible and it can be bent without heating. "taffy-amber" ?

Unfortunately, I can not confidently answer what distinguishes the two extractions from the dry,
when one turned as sticky dense fluid and other hard and brittle.

Absurd but may be influenced by seasonality?
That sticky, I was producing a very hot summer and the last shatter as recently as the snow in our area have not yet gone so far.

I also can not imagine what it is separated from the extract obtained from dried after ethanol has evaporated.

Why do I think that this is not the residual ethanol, but something similar in physical and chemical properties to the desired resin.
Somehow this is not observed in experiments with fresh.

[N. Accumbens]

Edited for fun....

Great work, all!

[jump117]

Originally Posted by jump117

Absurd but may be influenced by seasonality?
That sticky, I was producing a very hot summer and the last shatter as recently as the snow in our area have not yet gone so far.

A note on the impact of climate and/or storage conditions on the balance THCA/THC,
which determines the consistency of the extract.

Originally Posted by spurr

Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids
Grotenhermen, F.
Clinical Pharmacokinetics, Volume 42, Number 4, 2003 , pp. 327-360(34)

Taken from the International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines webiste (link):
Quote:
In the plant the cannabinoids exist mainly in their carboxylic forms as cannabinoid acids. However, the phenolic form of THC is responsible for the psychotropic and the most medicinal effects. Decarboxylation (separation of CO2) to the phenolic form occurs readily over time, upon heating or under alkaline conditions.

The ratio of THC acids (THCA) to phenolic THC has been reported to range between 2:1 (Africa) and >20:1 (Switzerland) in leaves and flowers of Cannabis sativa.

In plants grown in Middle Europe (United Kingdom) from Moroccan, Sri Lankan and Zambian seed stocks the THCA/THC ratio was 17:1 compared with 2:1 in the plants from the original areas (Africa, Asia).

In hashish (cannabis resin) the THCA/THC ratio was reported to range between 6.1:1 and 0.5:1, the latter in hashish from India. Thus, the percentage of phenolic THC of all THC in cannabis products varied between less than 5% in cannabis leaves grown in Switzerland up to 65% in hashish from India.

Cannabis products with a high content of phenolic THC (e.g. hashish) may be very potent without heating, but usually the potency of cannabis products is considerably increased with heating (smoking, cooking).

Modified according to: Grotenhermen F. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids. Clinical Pharmacokinetics 2001, in press

It seems that in hot countries natural decarboxylation is faster than in the cold.
Сolder climate, the harder the amber.

[jump117]

Originally Posted by jump117

Absurd but may be influenced by seasonality?
That sticky, I was producing a very hot summer and the last shatter as recently as the snow in our area have not yet gone so far.

A note on the impact of climate and/or storage conditions on the balance THCA/THC,
which determines the consistency of the extract.

Originally Posted by spurr

Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids
Grotenhermen, F.
Clinical Pharmacokinetics, Volume 42, Number 4, 2003 , pp. 327-360(34)

Taken from the International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines webiste (link):
Quote:
In the plant the cannabinoids exist mainly in their carboxylic forms as cannabinoid acids. However, the phenolic form of THC is responsible for the psychotropic and the most medicinal effects. Decarboxylation (separation of CO2) to the phenolic form occurs readily over time, upon heating or under alkaline conditions.

The ratio of THC acids (THCA) to phenolic THC has been reported to range between 2:1 (Africa) and >20:1 (Switzerland) in leaves and flowers of Cannabis sativa.

In plants grown in Middle Europe (United Kingdom) from Moroccan, Sri Lankan and Zambian seed stocks the THCA/THC ratio was 17:1 compared with 2:1 in the plants from the original areas (Africa, Asia).

In hashish (cannabis resin) the THCA/THC ratio was reported to range between 6.1:1 and 0.5:1, the latter in hashish from India. Thus, the percentage of phenolic THC of all THC in cannabis products varied between less than 5% in cannabis leaves grown in Switzerland up to 65% in hashish from India.

Cannabis products with a high content of phenolic THC (e.g. hashish) may be very potent without heating, but usually the potency of cannabis products is considerably increased with heating (smoking, cooking).

Modified according to: Grotenhermen F. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids. Clinical Pharmacokinetics 2001, in press

It seems that in hot countries natural decarboxylation is faster than in the cold.
Сolder climate, the harder the amber.