[jump117]

Congratulations on your initiative and happy gaining remarkable cobra!

Practice this process is not as complicated as it may seem in the description .

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[daheadies]

Originally Posted by jump117

I am very grateful to you for those words it's so nice to be useful for people.
To avoid exposure to the frozen material with a warm moist air
I load the material in a thermos immediately after trimming and freeze them together.
Material is stored in an extractor in the freezer until the time of extraction.
At environment store it’s a long process, they posted reports of getting fragile amber from buds cured for one year.
I am inexperienced in dealing with dry material after a long curing.
I am also inexperienced in dealing with large amount,
I just noticed that the rinse of fresh material is required several times more butane than for dry in tubular extractor.
I'm afraid that – yes. Try to load it in the frozen extractor in the freezing zone, wearing gloves and exhaling aside .

Hi Gray Wolf, that's where the handy skill in martial arts!

I see the meaning of the pre-freezing of material in the stabilization of the start moment filling of the extractor
when in contact with warm material liquid gas evaporates rapidly, which causes a pressure jump in the extractor.
I suspect deep frozen may slows down the rate of extraction.
Since the solvent power increases with temperature,
the optimum temperature of filling and extraction should be just under the boiling point, imo.

If zip-lock is heavy-duty and its material allows direct contact with butane,
probably it can be used as a butane extractor.
The only thing that will have to do is adapter for filling zip-lock bag from a can.
I'm not sure whether it be a refrigerator of any kind or simply a good thermo insulation,
but it should be possible to frequent or constant stirring during extraction.
Using my thermos with a narrow neck is sorely lacking a mechanical crusher-mixer,
which is implemented by zip-lock bag.
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Optimizing the quality of the extract, we need to prevent access of solvent to fat contents of plant cells
which contaminate the extract.
Frozen juice protects the quality for hours of extraction.
I undertook a two hours (1+1) extraction of buds material.
Extracts of first and second hours are fused into a common chip.
Here in the photo extract of second hour is the lower right quarter of the chip.
It is smaller and darker than of the first, but the green tones are not visible.

What are you saying here?? what are you doing with frozen juice? What is the difference between a 1 and 2 hour extraction? (you mean how long you let the buds sit in the butane?) Also, I forget; is it sativas or indicas that work better to make amber? or does it matter?

[daheadies]

I did it!!! Thank you JUMP your a saint! you should win an award as far as I'm concerned for bringing this method to the public! thank you thank you thank you!
This really is the most potent / put you on your ass high that I have ever experienced.

I did it Jump's method step by step w/ etoh. I was going to stop before adding etoh but I figured I would go through w/ Jump's method step by step, and I achieved stellar results! I used a extraction tube rather than a soaking chamber, and I only used about one and a half cans of butane.
Only complaint is that there is some residual etoh taste... I am going to try everclear next time, because when I have done different alcohol extraction experiments I have found everclear to work as well or better than the etoh I have, and it has less of an after taste..

Heres the brittle pieces I scraped off the razor blade.. This stuff really does dry EXTREMELY fast



Heres some shots of it after I melted the shards together.




JUMP- In your post about the "chip" you say it was using 3 month cured stuff... Does that mean fresh and frozen, and put in the freezer for 3 months?

[jump117]

Originally Posted by daheadies

What are you saying here?? what are you doing with frozen juice? What is the difference between a 1 and 2 hour extraction? (you mean how long you let the buds sit in the butane?) Also, I forget; is it sativas or indicas that work better to make amber? or does it matter?

I'm saying here about the juice of a live plant or juice of fresh wet just recently cut flowers and not subjected to drying.

I'm not doing anything with this juice but it makes a lot of useful to protect the extract from pollution by lipophilic substances contained in plant cells.
The water in plant cells does not allow the solvent to the inner parts, where it can dissolve something we do not need to extract.
The less damaged plant tissue and juicier they are, the purer the extract obtained.
For this reason, extracts from grinded buds are always dirtier extracts of whole buds.

Extractable material was in butane for an hour, then butane was drained and its place was filled with fresh butane,
in which the material is rinsed for another hour. The total duration of extraction was two hours.

The difference between the extractions of first hour and of second hour is illustrated and commented on the post #128, which you had quoted in the question.
Extract of the second hour is darker and smaller than the extract of the first hour.
In ingot chip where they both joined together, in a photo an extract of the second hour is located in the lower right quadrant.

Originally Posted by jump117

These experiments was carried out with varieties and hybrids with a predominant content of indica – White Russian, Mazar-i-Sharif, Opium, Maple Leaf, K2, White Widow, +, the closest to sativa was Super Haze grown as bonsai.

[jump117]

My previous post was late, I typed it before I saw your report about a remarkable result, which I congratulate you.
At the same time, I want to sincerely thank you for giving pleasure to feel that my efforts have benefited and enjoy not only myself but also others.

Originally Posted by daheadies

JUMP- In your post about the "chip" you say it was using 3 month cured stuff... Does that mean fresh and frozen, and put in the freezer for 3 months?

No, this is an exception, it was a gift from my grow friends. The chip was made of flowers dried before they were frozen.
I applied to them the same technology as a double extraction of butane and ethanol, and it worked.

Congratulations again! And many happy returns of the beautiful Amber!

[daheadies]

thanks for the response!

[medicalgreen]

Congratulations, Daheadies,
I agree, JUMP has to be awarded somehow. Even if just an internet award for "Hash Teacher of the Year" or something. Jump is a real hero to me and many others. What he is teaching is awesome!

I only wish that we could get this from inferior product somehow.

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[daheadies]

Originally Posted by medicalgreen

Congratulations, Daheadies,
I agree, JUMP has to be awarded somehow. Even if just an internet award for "Hash Teacher of the Year" or something. Jump is a real hero to me and many others. What he is teaching is awesome!

I only wish that we could get this from inferior product somehow.

My friend made 4 lbs of it, apparently, he's sitting on, and I have no idea how he made that much, because he doesn't even grow, himself. So, i'm wondering if he's getting the same product from a different method, or if he has found a way to extract this, from inferior product.

I've done like 15 extractions now and they all came out slightly different. All of his, was identical, from what I can tell. I think there are more secrets to this, maybe Jump has not discovered yet. Maybe we can help him discover something cool, too?

Keep experimenting, ......that's what i'm doing. Just got a Tamisium yesterday. I own a commercial vacuum packager as well. So, I can do some interesting things, now. I can't wait to experiment. I'm checking into finer filters, too. Lab Grade.

Thanks! I have now successfully gotten amber twice. The second time I used everclear instead of straight up etoh.. This time, within one batch of amber, there were 3 different grades of amber, ranging from orange translucent to yellow opaque (color of "budder", but much harder) .. Not sure if its cause of the everclear or just coincidence/ unknown variable.

Anyways, now that I have gotten it im going to keep experimenting.
My friend that knows how to make it makes it out dry mixed strain trim.. So it should be possible using (inferior product), or at least not w/ the good stuff.. And he does a great job each time. Im 99% positive he does not use any sort of alcohol to refine it. It turns out darker than Jumps version of AA, but it burns grey on a coal and is very smooth, and very very potent.

Has anyone successfully gotten amber w/o using alcohol? If so do you follow jumps instructions up until the alcohol step?