[TheMadHasher]

WOW! That stuff looks incredible! Wanna hang out sometime?

[jump117]

Amber chips made from crispy dry 3 mnth cured mostly indica hybrids.

[Gray Wolf]

Hee, hee, hee, you rascal!

[ElRubio]

Originally Posted by jump117

im just nominate this for POTM man!!
INSPIRATIONAL PURE CLEAN!

thx for the show and for the info, much apreciatted!

[jump117]

The birth of the chip

[medicalgreen]

Hey Jump,
Do you think that allowing the butune to "boil" while it's mixing with the herb, changes anything chemically, in relation to the THCA?
Here, in California, our temps are sometimes 78-80F and the butane is sometimes evaporating as it's mixing with the herb.
Also, what do you think allows THC to turn back to a crystalized state with age and oxygen? I have noticed after months, it tends to do this.
Do you think there is a component to butane purging, that necessitates it being done all under a certain degree of temps in order to keep THCA from converting to THC in the purge process?
I appreciate it. Thanks.

[paulo73]

Originally Posted by jump117

Amber chips made from crispy dry 3 mnth cured mostly indica hybrids.

This is a work of LOVE!!!

[Charles Ingalls]

yeah, they are really pretty actually.

[jump117]

Originally Posted by medicalgreen

Hey Jump,
Do you think that allowing the butune to "boil" while it's mixing with the herb, changes anything chemically, in relation to the THCA?
Here, in California, our temps are sometimes 78-80F and the butane is sometimes evaporating as it's mixing with the herb.
Also, what do you think allows THC to turn back to a crystalized state with age and oxygen? I have noticed after months, it tends to do this.
Do you think there is a component to butane purging, that necessitates it being done all under a certain degree of temps in order to keep THCA from converting to THC in the purge process?
I appreciate it. Thanks.

I do not think boiling butane can affect THСA/THC ratio,
Chemical composition of butane is not changed by boiling,
In a gaseous state it is no longer involved in the extraction and does not benefit as a solvent
Except for the extraction efficiency of mixing caused by the motion of bubbles.

I have always freeze loaded extractor and the butane can before extraction
In order to minimize the rapid evaporation of butane at the beginning of the process
And avoid accidental ejection of the staff and evaporation losses.

In the process of evaporation, collection and give amber a convenient form
It is melted several times at about 70°C (158°F) and returns to brittle at room temp.
imo its hard brittle texture indicates a high content of THСA, which may crystallize.
That means decarboxylation didn’t happened.

I regularly observe the change in consistency after decarboxylation.
When smoking at home, I use digital soldering iron with an open ceramic heater.
Sometimes happens that a shard of brittle amber does not have time to evaporate,
It melts, wraps around the heater and drips on the bottom glass plate.
Fragility never returns to this drop,
It is sticky forever because of the decrease in the THСA/THC ratio
after decarboxylation from THCA to THC, which may not crystallize.

I do not know whether decarboxylation is reversible or not
and whether this process occurs during crystallization, which you describe.
Many times I read the description of crystallization by the type of honey sugaring,
waxing, formation of spongy porous surface, I never saw such changes, is it autobuddering?
Is it what you asked?
Crystallization or offgasing of residual butane and/or/? terpens, sorry I don't know.

[dope_roor]

Originally Posted by jump117

I have always freeze loaded extractor and the butane can before extraction
In order to minimize the rapid evaporation of butane at the beginning of the process
And avoid accidental ejection of the staff and evaporation losses.

I like to do the same when extracting with the goal of maximum quality

Originally Posted by jump117

I do not know whether decarboxylation is reversible and whether this process occurs
during crystallization, which you describe.

carboxylation would be the reverse reaction to decarboxylation, addition of CO2 group, however that would never occur to our oils under the conditions we subject them to

Originally Posted by jump117

Many times I read the description of crystallization by the type of honey sugaring,
waxing, formation of spongy porous surface, I never saw such changes, is it autobuddering?
Is it what you asked?
Crystallization or offgasing of residual butane and/or/? terpens, sorry I don't know.

im still trying to figure this one out too. to me, buddering seems to be related to presence of non-THC lipid compounds and how much physical manipulation was performed to the oil (which i believe overall reduces the presence of certain compounds and ultimately increases the lipid:thc ratio), those that seem to budder even with minimal handling may have already have a high lipid:thc ratio due to genetics.

getting the crystallized state seems to require very low heat applied, minimal handling of both the starting material (keeping the plant cell walls intact to minimize leeching thus increasing the lipid:thc ratio on the THC end, in short, nugs not grinding), and final material (no whipping).

all of which support your hypothesis about ratio of THC, which I think is proven by your EtOH washes, as EtOH displays less selectivity than Butane to those non psychoactive lipid compounds thus guaranteeing a final product a very low lipid:thc ratio i.e. shatter/crystal

i do observe the presence of many tiny porous bubbles when i produce budder, i find the extract smoother and more flavorful at this stage but with reduced potency and less numbing lung expansion. i believe this is due to some of the more volatile terpenes that are lost during buddering and better preserved in a crystallized state