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Old 04-09-2010, 05:52 AM #1
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Post Californians, Do the moral thing and vote yes in November!

This is the time to put any greed or paranoia aside and vote yes on this bill. Do the right thing. Help America move past pot prohibition. California leads the world in progressive thinking, and that thinking can revitalize your state, and stop the jailing of innocent people at the same time.

The Bill might not be perfect but it is a good start. Just like prop 215 was a good start.

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Old 04-09-2010, 07:17 AM #2
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I couldn't agree with you more. Even if you have a problem with taxation and regulation this bill is a start- think of it more as a statement you are sending to our ignorant government! If you think the current situation is ok right now just because you have your medical card in California you must not be keeping up with the new regulations they are trying to pass in most cities- things will start going backwards before you know it. Lets stop playing around and get out and vote YES this November for the Regulate, Control, and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010!!
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This is the time to put any greed or paranoia aside and vote yes on this bill. Do the right thing. Help America move past pot prohibition. California leads the world in progressive thinking, and that thinking can revitalize your state, and stop the jailing of innocent people at the same time.

The Bill might not be perfect but it is a good start. Just like prop 215 was a good start.

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I will NOT vote yes on this. This is my state and I do not support this bill. It is very monopolistic and written so that certain people will profit a whole lot and regulations will be in place to prevent their competition from arising.
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if it will keep 1 person out of jail, the vote should be yes, how could anyone want someone to get arrested, if so , they are partly responsible for the action , and very bad karma.

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I will NOT vote yes on this. This is my state and I do not support this bill. It is very monopolistic and written so that certain people will profit a whole lot and regulations will be in place to prevent their competition from arising.
well you are very minded and short sighted on the subject. If this state passes a bill then other states will pass one as well. Their bills will be different, and provide different markets. If you cant compete in Capitalism it is your own fault anyways.


Back to what I was saying now. When other states pass better bills it will cause the cali bill to be changed to keep up. The people will make sure of that.

The point is you have to start somewhere and you have to have delayed gratification. That means making some sacrifices now to ensure the future is better. Americans just dont have it any more. Because of the credit system Americans have become stupefied consumerist sheep. They want everything exactly how they want it and they want it right now and cant look into the future to see how that might cause actual real problems. You being uneducated and unable to compete in the market is not a real problem for the whole of the country. What is a problem though is losing the chance to help bring an end to the drug war.

So what I say to you is, expand your mind, and your freedom will expand as well.

People have been trying to re-legalize this plant for too many years already for you to go and vote no and fuck it up now because it isnt just how your feeble mind likes it.
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Only vote no if you want the government controling your body more.

If you are still voting no on this bill please consider the fact that you are FINALIZING the government's right to tell you what you can and cant do with your own body.
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You need to stay away from California political arguments. You are a Pro Oaksterdam Troll!!! https://legalizationwiki.org/Ammiano_Bill_AB_390 is what I hoped got passed. Get real and get your head out of the mags telling you about my state!!!
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:18 PM #8
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^go fuck your self. how am i trolling this is my thread? fuck off. why would you give me bad karma? I was nice to you, and you are a dick anyways, but now i'm done being nice. You gave me negative karma because you have no way to express your opinion in an educated manor, thus proving your narrow mindedness

You have only proved that you are a troll and not I. I have never even been to oakland. BTW 390 didnt make it past the health comity. the bill you like is dead. I liked it better too, but it is dead.

GET A FUCKING EDUCATION YOU DICK. AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD IF YOU CANT BE A DECENT HUMAN. ONCE AGAIN GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP IT UP AND YOU WONT LAST LONG HERE. PEOPLE DONT LIKE TROLLS. I HAVE BEEN WITH THIS COMMUNITY SINCE OVERGROW AND THEY KNOW IM NOT TROLL AS YOU ACCUSED ME. AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY TRUE BECAUSE TROLL ACCOUNTS GET BANNED HERE FAST. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU COME AND GO BECAUSE THEY START TO DISH OUT BAD KARMA AND BE ASS HOLES FOR NO REASON.

also think about how nice prison will be because real karma will get you for voting no and helping the federal government further solidify and continue the drug war because people like you cant see past your own tiny dicks.
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Old 07-04-2010, 04:34 AM #9
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How does this bill impact the medical user though? Will doctors still be able to perscribe usage?

From my (limited) understanding it will eliminate medical usage and make general usage legal. Doesn't this remove protection(the little that we have) from say corporate firings?
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I do not think it will impact Prop 215.

At any rate, I really agree with the competition part which HZ brought up...Just like with Wal-Mart. They may have the lowest prices and there might be a Wal-Mart every five miles, but I still shop at mom-and-pop stores and the like. If you provide a quality product, you'd best believe I'd buy from you than the shady low-quality producer.
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