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slackx · 04-03-2010, 02:21 AM

My little witch seems to be suffering from either an overdose or a defciency? I gave them very very light dose nutrients yesturday half a 1/4 teaspoon of grow big and a quarter table spoon fox farm big bloom..

Was wondering if anyone can give me some insite before i just transplant em

unclefishstick · 04-03-2010, 04:01 AM

what kind of medium? if there are no nutes in the medium,I would say they look hungry for something. see how they react to the feeding you gave them first though,let the plants tell you what they want

asstastic · 04-03-2010, 04:09 AM

it looks like mag this is from MYNAMSTICH
Problems with Magnesium being locked out by PH troubles

Light Acid Soils, soils with excessive potassium, calcium and or phosphorus

Soil

Magnesium gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-6.4
Magnesium is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.5-9.1 . (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Magnesium deficiency.

Hydro and Soil less Mediums

Magnesium gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-5.7
Magnesium is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 5.8-9.1
(Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Magnesium deficiency.

Solution to fixing a Magnesium deficiency
Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have Magnesium in them will fix a Magnesium deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!)
Other nutrients that have magnesium in them are: Epsom salts, which is fast absorption. Dolomite lime and or garden lime (same thing just called different) which is slow absorption. Sulfate of Potash, Magnesia which is medium absorption. Worm Castings, which is slow absorption. Crabshell which is slow absorption. Earth Juice Mircoblast, which is fast acting. (a must buy!! Has lots of 2ndary nutrients).
Now if you added to much chemical nutrients and or organics,( which is hard to burn your plants when using organics) You need to Flush the soil with plain water. You need to use 2 times as much water as the size of the pot, for example: If you have a 5 gallon pot and need to flush it, you need to use 10 gallons of water to rinse out the soil good enough to get rid of excessive nutrients.

Picture one shows a mid grade magnesium deficiency.

(Picture 1 is Mine)

slackx · 04-03-2010, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclefishstick

what kind of medium? if there are no nutes in the medium,I would say they look hungry for something. see how they react to the feeding you gave them first though,let the plants tell you what they want

Soiless specificaly Fox farm "light warrior"

Bulldog11 · 04-03-2010, 05:49 AM

Not cal-mag, check out the difference in yellowing. Cal-mag deficiency's yellow from the edge of the leaf in. Nitrogen is the opposite. I would guess that you need to feed them a little bit. Wait till they eat up your first feed, then maybe if they don't green up, give another light feeding. I would stop with the high phosphorous at this point, and start to move to nitrogen.

GanjaPharma · 04-03-2010, 05:54 AM

with plants that small its gotta be ph lockout

dagnabit · 04-03-2010, 05:55 AM

too young to fert

asstastic · 04-03-2010, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog11

Not cal-mag, check out the difference in yellowing. Cal-mag deficiency's yellow from the edge of the leaf in. Nitrogen is the opposite. I would guess that you need to feed them a little bit. Wait till they eat up your first feed, then maybe if they don't green up, give another light feeding. I would stop with the high phosphorous at this point, and start to move to nitrogen.

its not n too much would be green and to little would never affect new groth first
thats prob high ph from the peat in the soil locking out mag
if you check the sick plant sticky youll see its not n

unclefishstick · 04-03-2010, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackx

Soiless specificaly Fox farm "light warrior"

i grow organic,so i would be prone to hitting them with a mild fish emulsion and see how they did,but thats me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog11

Not cal-mag, check out the difference in yellowing. Cal-mag deficiency's yellow from the edge of the leaf in. Nitrogen is the opposite. I would guess that you need to feed them a little bit. Wait till they eat up your first feed, then maybe if they don't green up, give another light feeding. I would stop with the high phosphorous at this point, and start to move to nitrogen.

i kinda thought maybe it was Mg related because the cotylldons are still green,i would think they would have yellowed up if it was N,but seedlings can be finicky little critters

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaPharma

with plants that small its gotta be ph lockout

isnt that fox farms stuff pretty hot for seedlings?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagnabit

too young to fert

i start my seedlings in the same mix they will spend there lives in,and it has enough in it to last the plant on just water up till flower,they need some nutes,just not lots of them...

OrganicMonkey · 04-03-2010, 06:10 AM

Probably from giving them big bloom, they aren't even far away from flowering they are so distant from that! It seems that giving flowering ferts early, makes them short on Nitrogen...not that the soil needs more nitrogen.

That sounds like a lot of fertilizer combined, your lucky your not finding burned leafs.

04-03-2010, 02:21 AM	#1
slackx Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,389	I know its not the infirmary but people visit here more My little witch seems to be suffering from either an overdose or a defciency? I gave them very very light dose nutrients yesturday half a 1/4 teaspoon of grow big and a quarter table spoon fox farm big bloom.. Was wondering if anyone can give me some insite before i just transplant em

04-03-2010, 04:01 AM	#2
unclefishstick Fancy Janitor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: spinning circles Posts: 50,463	what kind of medium? if there are no nutes in the medium,I would say they look hungry for something. see how they react to the feeding you gave them first though,let the plants tell you what they want __________________

04-03-2010, 05:55 AM	#7
dagnabit Game Bred Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,648	too young to fert __________________ WHO DAT

04-03-2010, 04:09 AM	#3
asstastic Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 303	it looks like mag this is from MYNAMSTICH Problems with Magnesium being locked out by PH troubles Light Acid Soils, soils with excessive potassium, calcium and or phosphorus Soil Magnesium gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-6.4 Magnesium is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.5-9.1 . (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Magnesium deficiency. Hydro and Soil less Mediums Magnesium gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-5.7 Magnesium is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 5.8-9.1 (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Magnesium deficiency. Solution to fixing a Magnesium deficiency Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have Magnesium in them will fix a Magnesium deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!) Other nutrients that have magnesium in them are: Epsom salts, which is fast absorption. Dolomite lime and or garden lime (same thing just called different) which is slow absorption. Sulfate of Potash, Magnesia which is medium absorption. Worm Castings, which is slow absorption. Crabshell which is slow absorption. Earth Juice Mircoblast, which is fast acting. (a must buy!! Has lots of 2ndary nutrients). Now if you added to much chemical nutrients and or organics,( which is hard to burn your plants when using organics) You need to Flush the soil with plain water. You need to use 2 times as much water as the size of the pot, for example: If you have a 5 gallon pot and need to flush it, you need to use 10 gallons of water to rinse out the soil good enough to get rid of excessive nutrients. Picture one shows a mid grade magnesium deficiency. (Picture 1 is Mine)

04-03-2010, 05:49 AM	#5
Bulldog11 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,079	Not cal-mag, check out the difference in yellowing. Cal-mag deficiency's yellow from the edge of the leaf in. Nitrogen is the opposite. I would guess that you need to feed them a little bit. Wait till they eat up your first feed, then maybe if they don't green up, give another light feeding. I would stop with the high phosphorous at this point, and start to move to nitrogen.

04-03-2010, 05:54 AM	#6
GanjaPharma Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: BlessedCoast Posts: 510	with plants that small its gotta be ph lockout

04-03-2010, 06:10 AM	#10
OrganicMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 316	Probably from giving them big bloom, they aren't even far away from flowering they are so distant from that! It seems that giving flowering ferts early, makes them short on Nitrogen...not that the soil needs more nitrogen. That sounds like a lot of fertilizer combined, your lucky your not finding burned leafs.