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kweb1989 · 03-27-2010, 04:54 PM

Noobie question...

I was looking at lowes at some bulbs just checking their stock when i ran into the 70watt hps bulb with the standard medium sized socket. i came to wonder, what would happen if i bought one and screwed it into a standard socket with no ballast. i understand that a bulb of 250+wattage would require a ballast and ofcoarse a 70 should use a ballast but since it is of such low wattage, would would happen without the ballast?

Has anyone used a 70watt hps bulb with no ballast?
Did the bulb still work?
How long did the bulb last?
Does it change the light intensity?
Is there a serious fire hazard for some reason?
Any information would be nice to have please.

Thanks everyone.

03-27-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kweb1989

Noobie question...

I was looking at lowes at some bulbs just checking their stock when i ran into the 70watt hps bulb with the standard medium sized socket. i came to wonder, what would happen if i bought one and screwed it into a standard socket with no ballast. i understand that a bulb of 250+wattage would require a ballast and ofcoarse a 70 should use a ballast but since it is of such low wattage, would would happen without the ballast?

Has anyone used a 70watt hps bulb with no ballast?
Did the bulb still work?
How long did the bulb last?
Does it change the light intensity?
Is there a serious fire hazard for some reason?
Any information would be nice to have please.

Thanks everyone.

My guess would be if that worked other people would be trying it and I have never heard of doing any such thing. If you try it stand back before you flip the switch.

I wouldn't even try it if it were me, you can get a whole 70watt light cheap enough from https://www.e-conolight.com/Product/E...ber=E-HC1H071Z

Snype · 03-28-2010, 11:13 AM

If you read the back of the box, it will tell you what type of socket to put it into. If you put it into something that it's not supposed to be in, it just won't turn on.

Andyo · 03-28-2010, 11:27 AM

Grip the socket end of the lamp in your teeth and put your fingers in the live plug socket ,you will get a good buzz for sure .

kweb1989 · 03-28-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyo

Grip the socket end of the lamp in your teeth and put your fingers in the live plug socket ,you will get a good buzz for sure .

lol

cocktail frank · 03-28-2010, 05:14 PM

it will not work.
hps's dont work off standard 120v at the socket.
you will usually have something close to 300v at the socket after the ballast is hooked up.
hps's come in 2 base sizes (sockets)
medium base (smaller)
mogul base (larger)

kweb1989 · 03-29-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cocktail frank

it will not work.
hps's dont work off standard 120v at the socket.
you will usually have something close to 300v at the socket after the ballast is hooked up.
hps's come in 2 base sizes (sockets)
medium base (smaller)
mogul base (larger)

thanks for your insight

nineblanc · 03-30-2010, 10:28 PM

will a 400w hps turn on in a 230 v mogul socket?

FreezerBoy · 03-30-2010, 11:06 PM

Voltage isn't determined by the socket. As long as your ballast, cord and outlet are all 240, you're OK.

cocktail frank · 03-31-2010, 01:52 AM

no ballast, no mh/hps.
no way around it

03-27-2010, 04:54 PM	#1
kweb1989 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Eastern, USA Posts: 263	70watt hps & no ballast Noobie question... I was looking at lowes at some bulbs just checking their stock when i ran into the 70watt hps bulb with the standard medium sized socket. i came to wonder, what would happen if i bought one and screwed it into a standard socket with no ballast. i understand that a bulb of 250+wattage would require a ballast and ofcoarse a 70 should use a ballast but since it is of such low wattage, would would happen without the ballast? Has anyone used a 70watt hps bulb with no ballast? Did the bulb still work? How long did the bulb last? Does it change the light intensity? Is there a serious fire hazard for some reason? Any information would be nice to have please. Thanks everyone. __________________ ^^^Puff Puff Pass^^^ Marijuana is addictive in the sense that all great things in life are worth repeating! ICMAG'S OFFICIAL ~DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA Excellent Beginners Grow Guide A Complete Guide to Topping, Training and Pruning ALL ABOUT BONSAI MOMS/MUMS The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! A Library of Links (good stuff here) ][COOKING][--IC Recipe Guide-- 1st finshed CFL Cab Project Future CFL Cab Project in works**
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03-28-2010, 11:27 AM	#4
Andyo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,192	a good idea! Grip the socket end of the lamp in your teeth and put your fingers in the live plug socket ,you will get a good buzz for sure . __________________ No surrender
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nineblanc Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 41	will a 400w hps turn on in a 230 v mogul socket? __________________ Smoke weed every day <3
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FreezerBoy Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 11,517	Voltage isn't determined by the socket. As long as your ballast, cord and outlet are all 240, you're OK. __________________ . . FreezerBoy's Destroyer Diary-Completed...... FreezerBoy's Thunk Diary-Completed...... Beginners Links
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03-28-2010, 11:13 AM	#3
Snype Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In Heaven Posts: 5,163	If you read the back of the box, it will tell you what type of socket to put it into. If you put it into something that it's not supposed to be in, it just won't turn on.
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