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Old 03-18-2010, 02:41 AM #1
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Feminized seeds

feminized seeds can produce males and hermies! And worst yet, if you do find a good female keeper, they also have a tendencie to (herm)pop out a few male pollen sacs several generations down the line. So if ya decide to go the feminized
route always be on the lookout for hidden male sacs. i have read so many times about a grower losing entire harvests and all the strains they had going at the time!

Now you might be wondering how can feminized
(xx crossed w/xx) produce male plants? the reason theyve never been completely successful,
is the grow environment can influence the final sexual outcome of mj plants grown from seed! Basically stress = more males,Good grow environment = more females. From the time a seedling has 3 sets of leaves up until preflowers show the grow enviro can change
a male into a female and female to a male. Until researchers figure out how to completely fool mother nature feminized seeds will always have this "prob" to deal with. feminized sound like "the way to go" but ya might wanna checkout the grow books like greg greens or jorges growers bibles. good luck either way!
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And you know this to be fact? How? Can you provide any sources?
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I've grown out several strains from feminized seed stock. Nanners were common on all of them, I had more phenos later go hermy and keeping a mother was a real chore because they would try and go into flower once it was a bigger plant/rootmass. I had some interesting strains but having to live on my growing, I got sick of the nanner and hermy watch and vowed to stay away from feminized stock for now on.
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20,000 years of observation and interaction between man and cannabis have born it out.

Please work on your people skills. I've seen 3 posts from you today all of which have been belligerent and unhelpful.
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plants grown from regular seeds will also often hermi if you stress them with high temps or other stuff they dont like. true females (that will never produce male flowers under stress) are quite rare.

if you got a lot of herms from fem seed then it may well be your environment is off or you have not bought them from a reputable breeder.

personally i have had more herms from regular seeds than from fems.

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umm, how about eff that.

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20,000 years of observation and interaction between man and cannabis have born it out.

Please work on your people skills. I've seen 3 posts from you today all of which have been belligerent and unhelpful.
I asked the dude some questions. He comes in with a very strong opinion I haven't heard much about. I wondered if there was a source for the opinion. That is all.

And now you're telling me I need to "work on my people skills?"

Seriously? Troll moderators need to work on their candor. You have a personal problem with me, PM me, you putting me "on blast" here is really immature.

With all the companies making femmed seeds, and all the different pheno's, I can see how this could be sometimes true, but not universal for all seed companies.

I'd have loved some specifics, so I asked for them. I guess that was wrong of me... I don't know why, but whatever.
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I like fem seeds - just love the ladies
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Since the process is generally the same to feminize, it's not a stretch to think the problems would be similiar and common. My problems were consistant with the feminized seeds. My conditions are typically optimal and I have almost 20 years experience working with seeds stock. The problems were not exclusive to Fem seeds but just more common.

I always eneded up with hairy sites and triple/single leaf patterns while the other stock was still in a state of vigorous veg growth. I managed to control it by shortening the mother life but that is a pain in the ass for me to do when all the other plants are big and I have to turn over that fem mother 2-1.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:19 AM #10
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yes standard genetics/females can herm but nothing compared to fems.The 2 biggest reasons fems herm is heat stress, or irregular(sp?) light scheduale(light leak). Followed closely by over ferts.

Its true that most good growers can get all females from fems but new growers really dont have their rooms/techniques dialed in, and any1 can have accidental power outages,ect..herm probs are the worst thing(next to getn busted) that can happen to a grower and some new growers quit altogether after herm prob than to cleanup n start over.(well at least they would have alot of their own feminized seeds)

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