late flower ppm count recommendations please..... - Nutrients and Fertilizers - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

generalgrievous · 03-12-2010, 09:58 AM

i've always mixed nutes by keeping track of tsp/tbsp per gl..... start light and increase....sort of instinctive guess work....i'm a long time backyard grower....

now i have a small perpetual indoors and keeping track of two gardens in different stages of life.....well it got confusing....

as of yesterday i started using a ppm meter.... only to realize, what i thought was a massive dose of nutes is 930 ppm....and in mid 5th. week i'm seeing signs of multiple deficiency's....i'm not stressing it cuz bud growth has obviously not slowed....

i hand water in coco...at the moment i'm feeding with EJ bloom, liquid karma, aqua shield, cal-mag+, in r/o....

i need some thoughts on nute strength.... in veg, early flower, late flower, seedling, clone....

does this thing read everything i put in that water...? i'm an old soil grower going coco.... any help is greatly appreciated

generalgrievous · 03-12-2010, 11:14 AM

1550ppm.....

03-12-2010, 03:23 PM

I run Maxibloom exclusively for veg and flower. Since Maxibloom is very similar to the Lucas ratio, and since the Lucas ratio calls for the same ppm throughout flower, I simply bump my ppms from 3/4 strength in veg to full strength in flower and keep it their until I flush at the end of flower. (Full strength Maxibloom is roughly 1 tsp/gal and full strength ppms with my tap water is 1250, 950 nutes and 300 water)
PS, I too grow in coco

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What defs are you getting?

Kcar · 03-12-2010, 03:30 PM

It also depends on your conversion factor of your TDS meter. At .5, 2EC=1000ppm and
at .7, 2EC=1400

I think the upper limit is between 2.5 and 2.85 EC which is 1250 to 1425ppm at .5
and 1750 to 2000 ppm at .7

Much above those numbers I believe is a waste and could burn your plants.

03-12-2010, 03:34 PM

So true man, that .5, .7 conversion always confused me. My numbers are with a .5 pen.

Dr Dog · 03-12-2010, 03:41 PM

This is what I try to follow

Week 1 500 ppm of veg nutes 500 ppm of flower nutes

Week 2 1000 ppm flower nutes

Week 3 1100 ppm flower nutes with bloom boosters starting

Week 4 1300 ppm flower nutes

Week 5 1700 ppm flower nutes

Week 6 1900 to 2000 ppm

Week 7 500 ppm with finishing additives

week 8 0 ppm nutes and tap water

This is my sched, works well, I do have to adjust it now and then depending on strains and temps, but I try to stick to that

KyndBud · 03-12-2010, 09:22 PM

Hey General, you could try using the accelerated formula of Cal-Mag @ 10ml/Gal to stop the deficiency. Coco likes to hold onto magnesium so that might help.

My ppm through flowering is:

Week 1 - 800 ppm
Week 2 - 900-1000 ppm
Week 3 - 1000-1100 ppm
Week 4 - 1100-1300 ppm
Week 5 - 1000-1100 ppm
Week 6 - 900-1000 ppm
Week 7 - 800 ppm
Week 8 - Flush

I'm using the AN organic line at ~1000ppm plus I add guano tea to get my ppm in range.

Peace
KB

generalgrievous · 03-12-2010, 10:13 PM

thanks for your feeding schedules guys.....

i flip through my garden saver book and the deficiency's to me, look like phosphorus, potassium, and magnesium... i have some pics in my cam from last night.... i'll post 'em tonight.

i'm so close to the end here and bud growth is stacking up, no signs of slowing....can we crash and burn this close to the end....???

i try to be a stress free grower so i'll just up the munchies and see what happens...

ReelBusy1 · 03-13-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Dog

This is what I try to follow

Week 1 500 ppm of veg nutes 500 ppm of flower nutes

Week 2 1000 ppm flower nutes

Week 3 1100 ppm flower nutes with bloom boosters starting

Week 4 1300 ppm flower nutes

Week 5 1700 ppm flower nutes

Week 6 1900 to 2000 ppm

Week 7 500 ppm with finishing additives

week 8 0 ppm nutes and tap water

This is my sched, works well, I do have to adjust it now and then depending on strains and temps, but I try to stick to that

that is practically my ppm schedule exactly except I give a bloom boost early to get conversion started stronger.

Dr Dog · 03-13-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelBusy1

that is practically my ppm schedule exactly except I give a bloom boost early to get conversion started stronger.

I have often thought about it, that is why I give a transitional nute regiment the first week. I also find that it gets all the stretchiness out by the time week 2 has started

I do not think there is a wrong way, I just like to see the preemie buds before I start giving them bud food

03-12-2010, 09:58 AM	#1
generalgrievous collector of lightsabers.. and fine cannabis genetics Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 805	late flower ppm count recommendations please..... i've always mixed nutes by keeping track of tsp/tbsp per gl..... start light and increase....sort of instinctive guess work....i'm a long time backyard grower.... now i have a small perpetual indoors and keeping track of two gardens in different stages of life.....well it got confusing.... as of yesterday i started using a ppm meter.... only to realize, what i thought was a massive dose of nutes is 930 ppm....and in mid 5th. week i'm seeing signs of multiple deficiency's....i'm not stressing it cuz bud growth has obviously not slowed.... i hand water in coco...at the moment i'm feeding with EJ bloom, liquid karma, aqua shield, cal-mag+, in r/o.... i need some thoughts on nute strength.... in veg, early flower, late flower, seedling, clone.... does this thing read everything i put in that water...? i'm an old soil grower going coco.... any help is greatly appreciated __________________ "........just to recap ..........i come in peace ...i mean you no harm ...and you all will die .......Galaxar out!"
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03-12-2010, 11:14 AM	#2
generalgrievous collector of lightsabers.. and fine cannabis genetics Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 805	1550 it is for tonight 1550ppm..... __________________ "........just to recap ..........i come in peace ...i mean you no harm ...and you all will die .......Galaxar out!"
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03-12-2010, 03:23 PM	#3
Guest 18340 Guest Posts: n/a	I run Maxibloom exclusively for veg and flower. Since Maxibloom is very similar to the Lucas ratio, and since the Lucas ratio calls for the same ppm throughout flower, I simply bump my ppms from 3/4 strength in veg to full strength in flower and keep it their until I flush at the end of flower. (Full strength Maxibloom is roughly 1 tsp/gal and full strength ppms with my tap water is 1250, 950 nutes and 300 water) PS, I too grow in coco EDIT What defs are you getting?
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03-12-2010, 03:30 PM	#4
Kcar There are FOUR lights! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 2,387	It also depends on your conversion factor of your TDS meter. At .5, 2EC=1000ppm and at .7, 2EC=1400 I think the upper limit is between 2.5 and 2.85 EC which is 1250 to 1425ppm at .5 and 1750 to 2000 ppm at .7 Much above those numbers I believe is a waste and could burn your plants. __________________ My Sigs got annoying. BOG Love.
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03-12-2010, 03:41 PM	#6
Dr Dog Sharks have a week dedicated to me Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CANNADA Posts: 7,216	This is what I try to follow Week 1 500 ppm of veg nutes 500 ppm of flower nutes Week 2 1000 ppm flower nutes Week 3 1100 ppm flower nutes with bloom boosters starting Week 4 1300 ppm flower nutes Week 5 1700 ppm flower nutes Week 6 1900 to 2000 ppm Week 7 500 ppm with finishing additives week 8 0 ppm nutes and tap water This is my sched, works well, I do have to adjust it now and then depending on strains and temps, but I try to stick to that __________________ Federally Registered Designated Grower THE BUD HUNTER Medicinal Marijuana Advocate
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03-12-2010, 03:34 PM	#5
Guest 18340 Guest Posts: n/a	So true man, that .5, .7 conversion always confused me. My numbers are with a .5 pen.
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03-12-2010, 09:22 PM	#7
KyndBud Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Humboldt Posts: 149	Hey General, you could try using the accelerated formula of Cal-Mag @ 10ml/Gal to stop the deficiency. Coco likes to hold onto magnesium so that might help. My ppm through flowering is: Week 1 - 800 ppm Week 2 - 900-1000 ppm Week 3 - 1000-1100 ppm Week 4 - 1100-1300 ppm Week 5 - 1000-1100 ppm Week 6 - 900-1000 ppm Week 7 - 800 ppm Week 8 - Flush I'm using the AN organic line at ~1000ppm plus I add guano tea to get my ppm in range. Peace KB __________________ 4K Watt ScrOG
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03-12-2010, 10:13 PM	#8
generalgrievous collector of lightsabers.. and fine cannabis genetics Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 805	thanks for your feeding schedules guys..... i flip through my garden saver book and the deficiency's to me, look like phosphorus, potassium, and magnesium... i have some pics in my cam from last night.... i'll post 'em tonight. i'm so close to the end here and bud growth is stacking up, no signs of slowing....can we crash and burn this close to the end....??? i try to be a stress free grower so i'll just up the munchies and see what happens... __________________ "........just to recap ..........i come in peace ...i mean you no harm ...and you all will die .......Galaxar out!"
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