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Old 04-14-2010, 08:31 AM #41
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Day 7 Flower

Hey everyone! So it's day 7 of flower and as everyone knows this is just one of those weeks where floral hormones are steadily on the rise of concentrating. I can see a little bit more hairs starting to come out but those teeny bud sites don't usually start coming until week 2-3. Can't wait to see what they look like! Here is what I have been feeding them since last update

Feeding(4/8/10) (3gal)
NOTE:The numbers might seem weird but if you do the math the nutrients are still in the same intended ratio.
150ppm cal mag
1.416ml grow (4.25ml)
2.833ml bloom(8.5ml)
1.416ml amino aide (4.25ml)
2.833ml bloom (8.5ml)
2.833ml infinity (8.5ml)
2.833ml big swell (8.5ml)
23.33ml Humega (70ml)
PPM=500
PH: 5.92
Temp: 20 Celsius

Feeding(4/11/10)
150ppm cal mag
10ml Liquid Karma
9ml Cannazym
12.5ml Humega
Oregonism XL
PPM=350(450 original but diluted with R/O)
PH: 5.92
Temp: 20 Celsius

Now I have a few upgrades I am thinking about at the moment to make my grow more on the efficient side in terms of cooling at least.

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*Sun Shield(insulated reflector cover that is reflective on the outside and keeps heat from radiating out of the reflector)
*Noise reduction clamps(neoprene lined clamps you use to fasten your inline fan, filter, etc. in order to reduce noise and vibrations)
*Bug screen(carbon insert for intake fan that prevents against bugs, mold, etc.)
*damper(duct piece that seals the when airflow stops, or electric ones are triggered by whether they receive power or not)
*Insulated ducting(keeps heat from leaking radiating out of the ducts)

The reason I want the damper is because I want to pull in cold air from outside during the night but I don't want to pull in hot hair during the day. If i merely set the intake fan on a timer the duct will still be open when it is off and hot air from outside will still be sucked in from the pressure of the exhaust fan. The other problem is If i do have a damper with just one intake airflow will literally stop when the damper closes and my tent will self implode lol.

My remedy will be to have one intake fan on each side of the tent. The one connected to the outside air will only turn on during night and then the damper will shut during the day. When the damper shuts the other intake fan connected to inside air will turn on and takes the previous fan's place until night comes again. So basically they will switch off at their respective times.

Veg Station update:
So i know I have been talking about building a veg station. Slowly but surely everything is coming together. I have my shelving as you already know. I recently received my 4' 4 lamp C.A.P. Max Lume T5, and my PC fan ventilation set up is en route. I have also purchased panda plastic for the walls. I will end up purchasing a couple cheap T8 fixtures for the cuttings, and seed levels as they don't need as much light as the taller mom's I plan on keeping under the T5 fixture.

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Here are two pictures. One of them is right after the lights turned off this mourning and the second is from just about 20 minutes ago. Hope you like em!

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much grass justiceman! thanks to stumbling on this thread i've just ordered 20, 2 gall smart pots and a shelf unit. i have my 440 cfm can fan and 400 cfm phresh filter on a very shaky set up. i saw the shelf and a light went off. i'll put the fan and filter on the shelf and secure to a wall. now i can stop worrying about the damed thing tipping over or breaking the poles holding them up. the smart pots are well regarded in the growing community and its perfect timing for me to experiment. if these pots are what they claim to be, yee haa. i'm so sick of no roots in the middle of my soil.

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your babes are looking lovely! i use a grow lab 145 for flower. love the tents!

"So you like FIM, and topping? I haven't actually tried those teks out yet. I have been to scared to chop part of my plant off. Do those techniques really provide greater yield lets say in comparison to LST?"

i've done it all and have come to the conclusion that tying them down and then tying them down some more and then... is the best method. FIM has worked for me off and on but again, tying them down works great. why cut them?
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:59 AM #43
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much grass justiceman! thanks to stumbling on this thread i've just ordered 20, 2 gall smart pots and a shelf unit. i have my 440 cfm can fan and 400 cfm phresh filter on a very shaky set up. i saw the shelf and a light went off. i'll put the fan and filter on the shelf and secure to a wall. now i can stop worrying about the damed thing tipping over or breaking the poles holding them up. the smart pots are well regarded in the growing community and its perfect timing for me to experiment. if these pots are what they claim to be, yee haa. i'm so sick of no roots in the middle of my soil.

props!

your babes are looking lovely! i use a grow lab 145 for flower. love the tents!

"So you like FIM, and topping? I haven't actually tried those teks out yet. I have been to scared to chop part of my plant off. Do those techniques really provide greater yield lets say in comparison to LST?"

i've done it all and have come to the conclusion that tying them down and then tying them down some more and then... is the best method. FIM has worked for me off and on but again, tying them down works great. why cut them?
Hey thanks fatboy! The growlab 145 is nice and spacious(4'9"x4'9"x 6' 7" I think) I would have loved to get that tent. Shit I would have loved to get a 4 x 8, but unfortunately my current area only allows for this 4x4. Oh well I am still very happy with the yield that 4x4 can produce if worked correctly.

Seems like you and me are on the same page with LST. Interesting to note that you have done all the other techniques but still like LST the best. Just like you I think to myself "why cut them when I can just bend them over?" That way I get more side branching without having to deal with slowed growth, and possible sites for disease, but alas I haven't even topped yet so I still have to try that out in the future and see for myself.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:21 AM #44
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Day 14 Flower

Hey everyone so it's finally week 2 of flowering , and I finally have some little buds starting to come in not to mention it's 420. Okay so its about an hour after 420 midnight, but good enough right? I can't wait to see what my Hindu's turn into! My canopy is starting to become more uneven after I untied them, but it is still pretty consistent except for one corner.

I recently acquired my wire, electrical tape, fans, and my ac/dc power supply. I am in the process of slowly setting up the veg station as stated before. Hopefully soon everything will be up and running. When it is I will take some pictures for you guys and show you whats up. I am really excited as I was able to get four 120mm PC fans for the veg station for only $15. Cooler master 4 in 1 pack. Such a steel:jam: I will be hooking them up to my 12v ac to dc power supply witch is rated up to 5 amps so it can easily power 5 .15amp PC fans. Hell I might even wire a total of 8 PC fans to the power supply. It can take it. My plan is to have two at the bottom and two at the top for exhaust. Then I will have two on each side of the t5 mother light, and two on each side of my t8 seedling and clone section.

Interestingly enough I have one plant off in the corner that seems to not be doing as well as the rest of the lot. I have noticed that she is a lot greener then the rest of the Hindu's and has been exhibiting a slight downward leaf curl for some time. I am assuming that is early signs of N toxicity, as if she is right on the borderline of having to much N. I question how that happened when I have treated all of the the plants with the exact same nutrients doses each time. If anything all the others could do with a little extra N where as this one has too much. It might be the fact she is in the corner but then I would assume that the other 3 corner plants would exhibit similar characteristics. I question if she is a different cut labeled as Hindu Skunk, or if she came from a different mom that held different pheno witch in turn has different nutrient needs in comparison to the rest of the Hindu's. Either way as a result from the N toxicity she also seems to be stunted compared to the other Hindu's. Got any ideas as to what happened?

Here is what I have been feeding them as of late. I plan to up the doses a bit, but I am hesitating because even though I have been backing off on the cal mag the new leaf growth is slightly twisted so I am thinking they still have all the food they need for the most part.

Feeding(4/14/10)
150ppm cal mag
1.25ml grow
2.5ml bloom
1.25ml amino aide
2.5ml infinity
2.5ml big swell
9ml cannazym
15ml humega
PPM=450
PH: 5.92
Temp:20 Celsius


Feeding(4/17/10)
150ppm cal mag
2.5ml grow
5ml bloom
2.5ml amino aide
5ml infinity
5ml big swell
9ml cannazym
15ml humega
PPM= 750
PH: 5.92
Temp:20 Celsius

Feeding(4/20/10)
8ml cal mag
2.5ml grow(maybe 1ml extra for the whole brew)
5ml bloom
2.5ml amino aide(maybe 1ml extra for the whole brew)
5ml infiniyt
5ml big swell
9ml cannazym
15ml humega
PPM=850
PH: 5.92
Temp: Celsius

Got some pictures for ya(notice the stunted Hindu I discussed above in the bottom right corner of the first two shots). Hope you guys like the softcore nug shots. Any comments, criticism, or love is more then welcome!
Canopy shots



Here is a closer picture of the corner Hindu in question


Beginning nug shots




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they're looking lovely. nice and bushy and tight.

i used to use tons of products on my grows but i stopped growing for about a year and am now just doing dutch masters gold and ANs big bud. i'll slowly build up to more stuff over the next grow. it used to take 20 mins just to put all the products into the water. i don't miss making 8 galls of pot food every few days.

i've been out of reefer so the wait from beginning to flower to ready to smoke is killing me. i hope you have some smoke so you don't start "testing" the budlets.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:12 PM #46
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Right on fatboy. Ya I understand what you mean about the crap load of different products. I am usually a man that likes a solid base nutrient with the least amount of parts, but I was gifted this nutrient line so I have to try out the whole thing ya know? It's still semi basic in terms of how it's split up. The Grow, Amino aide, and Grow-n are all nitrogen/vegitation based nutrients(The grow-n is for when you need a quick N fix as it is very strong). The Bloom, Bigswell, and Peak are the PK/flower/root based nutrients. The Infinity is a catalyst/biology booster type geared for all around use. So essentially certain things could be rooted out to make the line more simple, but oh well it's still pretty easy to work with, unlike some of AN's products where you need 50,000 different nute bottles to complete the line haha.

Oh I assure you fatboy I have some nugs saved from the last round I had(but didn't post up) and they will surely hold me over till this harvest. Here are some pics of the my last quest.(Green Crack up first, and Granddaddy up second)




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Old 04-22-2010, 05:16 PM #47
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man those are beeeutiful! such nice fat colas. my sensi stars are thick but i didn't tie them down so they are just one semi big cola but only about 15 inches tall. once i cut this batch, i've got 25 clones, and 40 seedlings waiting for the tent. i have apollo 13/cinderella 88 crosses, matanuska tundra and one of my all time favorites, stonehedge in the rotation.

I'm going to pick up some of the grow-n. it sounds like what i need for those low N days.
nice!

i'm off to buy some ball jars today. i threw out my old ones when i went on a break.



i'll have to look into the genetics you're growing, they sure look nice.

i can't find a product called grow-n. who makes it?
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:19 PM #48
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Right on man! Ya sometimes you gotta switch out the jars as the seals become crappy, or you could just by new lids and keep the old jars(clean em or something). Your genetics sound mighty fine! I am sure those genes put out some good nug for sure. Ya I am growing Hindu skunk right now. It is pretty uniform so I like it. Can't judge yet but the nugs are starting to come in. Hopefully she puts out some great stuff.

As for the Grow-n it is made by "aurora innovations" they make two nutrient lines. Roots Organics, and Soul Synthetics. The Grow-n(8-0-0) is from the Soul Synthetics line. There exist other comparable N boosters though such as Organicare's Nitrex(botanicare), Natures Nectar Nitrogen(5-0-0), or even Amino aide(5-0-0) from Soul is another Nitrogen supplement and the nice one about amino aide is it is kelp based instead of mineral based.

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Veg Station update

So i finally started constructing the veg station the other day. The skeleton is 48"Lx18"W54"H. The walls are black and white panda film(black on the outside white on the inside). It has two sections. The top section will be a clone + seedling section and It has two 4' t8 fixtures(4 lamps total 128w). The bottom section will be for mothers and it has one 4' t5 fixture(4 lamps total 216w)

Let me know what you think!
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great looking veg space...very ideal
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