Dropping the Nitrogen in Flower - Nutrients and Fertilizers - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

CranAppleGemz · 03-08-2010, 06:55 PM

Ive seen a lot of people using floranova bloom and other 1 part nutrients. ease of use seems to be the biggest reason.

My quesrtions are: how would u go about dropping nitrogen with a 1-part?

also, Considering u can drop the nitrogen...what exactly are the negative effects of not dropping nitrogen during the flowering stage??

supermanlives · 03-08-2010, 07:58 PM

fine tuning your nutes. thats why i switched to ej.0-3-1 bloom and meta k 0-0-10. other ferts all you can do is change the amount not the ratios. i only use nitrogen for first 2 weeks of flower. lower amounts of nitrogen for me has reduced stretch. made more dense buds. with less leaves and possibly decreased my flower times. good luck its all about learning what your strain wants.

03-08-2010, 08:12 PM

Yeah I work in the opposite way. I like longer flower times and a full nutrient regimen. Since I'm limited to 3 flowering plants at a time I prefer larger plants (mine are at 4 ft and I'm on day 21) and typically require a decent amount of everything. My nutrient feeding schedule steadily increases until week 8. That's when I'm cutting my base (base= H&G Coco A+B NPK=10-8-10) in half and using a finishing product called Shooting Powder in my application. Its just some simple P and K powder.

Different strokes...

Talonted · 03-08-2010, 10:41 PM

I use Bio grow in my flower feed, week 1 i'll put say 4ml's in and only then 2mls up untill week 4-5. You dont wat to cut something its been getting, right off when its trying to switch over to flower as its the most stressfull time. once you kick in the bulkening formulas like KoolBloom, quit the grow food.]

Flower schedual
grow-bloom-grozyme-carbo load- big bud-kool bloom-
week 1 8ml 8ml 8ml 4ml 2g
week 2 4ml 12m 8ml 4ml 2g
week 3 3ml 14ml 8ml 4ml 2g
week 4 3ml 16m 8ml 4ml 2g
week 5 2ml 16ml 8ml 4ml 1.0g
week 6 18ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g
week 7 20ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g
week 8 rinse with fresh water for entire 8th week

Talonted · 03-08-2010, 10:51 PM

Sorry the wk 6 and wk 7 18ml and 20 ml measurments are for the Bloom, not the grow, it wont let me space em out right.

03-08-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Talonted

I use Bio grow in my flower feed, week 1 i'll put say 4ml's in and only then 2mls up untill week 4-5. You dont wat to cut something its been getting, right off when its trying to switch over to flower as its the most stressfull time. once you kick in the bulkening formulas like KoolBloom, quit the grow food.]

Flower schedual
grow-bloom-grozyme-carbo load- big bud-kool bloom-
week 1 8ml 8ml 8ml 4ml 2g
week 2 4ml 12m 8ml 4ml 2g
week 3 3ml 14ml 8ml 4ml 2g
week 4 3ml 16m 8ml 4ml 2g
week 5 2ml 16ml 8ml 4ml 1.0g
week 6 18ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g
week 7 20ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g
week 8 rinse with fresh water for entire 8th week

Nice work man. I like what your doing here. Do you have any pics of your final product?

03-09-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CranAppleGemz

Ive seen a lot of people using floranova bloom and other 1 part nutrients. ease of use seems to be the biggest reason.

My quesrtions are: how would u go about dropping nitrogen with a 1-part?

also, Considering u can drop the nitrogen...what exactly are the negative effects of not dropping nitrogen during the flowering stage??

I use Maxibloom, a 1 part, and it use full strength (1 tsp/gal) from day 1 of flower untill I see full on cloudy trich's. Then I cut off nutes all together and give plain tap for until the leaves yellow up and the trichs are now 50/50 cloudy/amber. Which usually takes 10-14 days.
Imo, stretch is more strain dependent than anything else. For example, my current 3x6 table has 9 C99 on one aside and 9 Shits (Mr.Nice) on the other. Both flowered at the same height, bith fed the same Maxibloom mix at the same time from the same rez. The Cindy is 3x taller than the Shits.
Mind you, thats just my opinion from my observation of what happens in my growroom. Your results may vary

*EDIT*
I also use Maxibloom for veg, 3/4 tsp/gal. So I simply up the dosage to a full tsp/gal come day one of 12/12.

B. Friendly · 03-09-2010, 01:39 AM

I am on the fence. I used GH's FloraMicro&Bloom with no Grow this time. I am thinkin that you need some FloraGrow because it kinda messed with my nutrients this round, had more deficiencies and ugly leaves.
Did this on 2 dif rooms and had similare results in each.
Think I am use GH's website recommendations.

CranAppleGemz · 03-09-2010, 05:21 PM

thanx for the answers everyone...i really appreciate it

rmccinc719 · 03-10-2010, 06:14 AM

i use gh flora series with some additives. and run grow for the first 2 weeks of flower and then cut it out. the micro has enough nitrogen in it to get most strains threw flower but iv'e found a few strains need another week or so of grow.this is were i think it's more important to find what your ladies like to feed on and adjust to what they like.

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CranAppleGemz Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 274	Dropping the Nitrogen in Flower Ive seen a lot of people using floranova bloom and other 1 part nutrients. ease of use seems to be the biggest reason. My quesrtions are: how would u go about dropping nitrogen with a 1-part? also, Considering u can drop the nitrogen...what exactly are the negative effects of not dropping nitrogen during the flowering stage?? __________________
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Talonted Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 252	I use Bio grow in my flower feed, week 1 i'll put say 4ml's in and only then 2mls up untill week 4-5. You dont wat to cut something its been getting, right off when its trying to switch over to flower as its the most stressfull time. once you kick in the bulkening formulas like KoolBloom, quit the grow food.] Flower schedual grow-bloom-grozyme-carbo load- big bud-kool bloom- week 1 8ml 8ml 8ml 4ml 2g week 2 4ml 12m 8ml 4ml 2g week 3 3ml 14ml 8ml 4ml 2g week 4 3ml 16m 8ml 4ml 2g week 5 2ml 16ml 8ml 4ml 1.0g week 6 18ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g week 7 20ml 8ml 4ml 1.5g week 8 rinse with fresh water for entire 8th week __________________ BlueCityDiesel x SourBubble Bx3 www.phoenixtears.ca
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03-08-2010, 10:51 PM	#5
Talonted Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 252	Sorry the wk 6 and wk 7 18ml and 20 ml measurments are for the Bloom, not the grow, it wont let me space em out right. __________________ BlueCityDiesel x SourBubble Bx3 www.phoenixtears.ca
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03-09-2010, 01:39 AM	#8
B. Friendly "IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude Join Date: May 2009 Location: dudeism.com Posts: 3,848	I am on the fence. I used GH's FloraMicro&Bloom with no Grow this time. I am thinkin that you need some FloraGrow because it kinda messed with my nutrients this round, had more deficiencies and ugly leaves. Did this on 2 dif rooms and had similare results in each. Think I am use GH's website recommendations. __________________ Puff and "B.Friendly" "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" When mankind first saw the necessity of government, it is probable that many had conceived the desire of ruling. Thomas Clarkson "The world runs on the initiative of about 5% of the people; the rest need orders. The consensus of the other 95% on the subject of one's relatonship with: government-banks-tax agencies-courts and corporations (all separate realms) is defective in that such inert abstractions have been accorded superiority over living beings. Governments are transitory mental contrivances set up by the clever few for the purpose of living off the efforts of the trusting many - a generalization, yes, but also the TRUTH." Cracking the Code, 3rd edition
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03-09-2010, 05:21 PM	#9
CranAppleGemz Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 274	thanx for the answers everyone...i really appreciate it __________________
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03-08-2010, 07:58 PM	#2
supermanlives Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: gilligans island Posts: 13,142	fine tuning your nutes. thats why i switched to ej.0-3-1 bloom and meta k 0-0-10. other ferts all you can do is change the amount not the ratios. i only use nitrogen for first 2 weeks of flower. lower amounts of nitrogen for me has reduced stretch. made more dense buds. with less leaves and possibly decreased my flower times. good luck its all about learning what your strain wants.
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03-08-2010, 08:12 PM	#3
Guywithoutajeep Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah I work in the opposite way. I like longer flower times and a full nutrient regimen. Since I'm limited to 3 flowering plants at a time I prefer larger plants (mine are at 4 ft and I'm on day 21) and typically require a decent amount of everything. My nutrient feeding schedule steadily increases until week 8. That's when I'm cutting my base (base= H&G Coco A+B NPK=10-8-10) in half and using a finishing product called Shooting Powder in my application. Its just some simple P and K powder. Different strokes...
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03-10-2010, 06:14 AM	#10
rmccinc719 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: c springs Posts: 467	i use gh flora series with some additives. and run grow for the first 2 weeks of flower and then cut it out. the micro has enough nitrogen in it to get most strains threw flower but iv'e found a few strains need another week or so of grow.this is were i think it's more important to find what your ladies like to feed on and adjust to what they like.
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