[big ballin 88]

Organic matter is always a good thing. Thats one of the greater benefits of EWC.

I think all organic nutes are relatively cheap. But i would much prefer to buy the ingredients and make your own as mentioned earlier, you get much more out of your well earned money. Even if it costs a little more at the time it will pay off.

[mad librettist]

Originally Posted by big ballin 88

Organic matter is always a good thing. Thats one of the greater benefits of EWC. I think all organic nutes are relatively cheap. But i would much prefer to buy the ingredients and make your own as mentioned earlier you get much more out of your well earned money. Even if it costs a little more at the time it will pay off.

You probably throw away the ingredients every day.

[big ballin 88]

Originally Posted by mad librettist

You probably throw away the ingredients every day.

What do you mean? I'm talking about making your own liquid nutes so please expand.

[mad librettist]

lol never mind, I thought you were still talking about worm castings.

how DO they make liquid nutes?

[Cool Moe]

I'm curious about the Rainbow mixes, if I used both grow and bloom would I need to mix 2 separate soils and veg in the grow mix soil then transplant prior to flip into the bloom mix soil? And then if I do this should I water with aerated worm casting/molasses tea throughout both phases?

[big ballin 88]

Originally Posted by mad librettist

lol never mind, I thought you were still talking about worm castings.

how DO they make liquid nutes?

I fixed the paragraph so it seperates the idea. I should've done that in the first place.

It depends on the nutrient. I would be interested to see how some of the companies like botanicare and EJ make theirs. Companies like Neptune's Harvest or some General Organics(Biomarine atleast) products give us a good understanding about how some of them are made.

I actually like the idea of just using EWC tea, liquid fish and liquid seaweed over the liquid nutes i still have leftover. I rather make these products than buy them, at least i know how their made and not just sitting on a shelf till sold. Between the hydroslated fish and seaweed extract you have a all the nutrients necessary, some just don't like feeding liquid kelp in flower, which i agree.

The only products i have to buy online is humic acid and the seaweed since i'm particular to a certain type. It cost 15 dollars for 3 pounds of seaweed which makes more than enough liquid seaweed and seaweed meal. The same thing with humic acid concetrate except its 2lbs for that price. Granted this may be a little more expensive as i mentioned, but i get wayyy more for my money.

In my mind the reason we feed with liquid nutes is to supplement the slow acting nutrients in the soil, and feed the microherd as the main reason. Theres more than meets the eye with liquid nutrients than just NPK ratings since there's more than just readily available nutrients.

[big ballin 88]

Originally Posted by Cool Moe

I'm curious about the Rainbow mixes, if I used both grow and bloom would I need to mix 2 separate soils and veg in the grow mix soil then transplant prior to flip into the bloom mix soil? And then if I do this should I water with aerated worm casting/molasses tea throughout both phases?

I've used the Rainbow mixes for a while now and i see no point in buying both of them. I think instead of buying the RM Grow you should buy Epsoma bio tone starter plus if you want to use pre-mixes. This way you get a full spectrum fertilizer from the RW bloom and Epsoma. Than you can supplement with some of the liquids i mentioned above for the micros in the mixes and soil.

I believe with slow acting nutrients that their still gonna be breaking down in flower. So why try to seperate them?

[krunchbubble]

i have something to add.....

years ago, when i worked at a hydro shop, the rep for earth juice came in to talk about there product and hype it up. after his speel about it and talking about it for a hour, i asked him what his mix was. he used general hydro!

i asked why he dosent use his own brand and he explained that each batch they mix is so inconsistent from the previous batch, he does not trust it at all! word....

[FinestKind]

Originally Posted by krunchbubble

i have something to add.....

years ago, when i worked at a hydro shop, the rep for earth juice came in to talk about there product and hype it up. after his speel about it and talking about it for a hour, i asked him what his mix was. he used general hydro!

i asked why he dosent use his own brand and he explained that each batch they mix is so inconsistent from the previous batch, he does not trust it at all! word....

Huh, well, that's no good! :P I'm on my first run with the EJ, so I don't really have any input yet, but it's good to see what everyone else thinks... now, I know there are EJ fans out there, maybe we could hear from some of them? You know, both sides of the coin?

FK

[Cool Moe]

Finestkind, I can't find it at the moment but you should search the organic forum for a nute study by jmansweed. The focus may have been hygrozyme but zyme paired with Earth Juice liquid nutes was the top performer in his study.