[bkob89]

i cut em off my mamas...put em in their rapid rooters using AN's root excelerator...put em under a dome and a 250w mh...and after 3 days some of them are wilting...ive water'd using ph'd water...5.8...i've sprayed em...any suggestions?

[Aeroguerilla]

rapid rooters? those are the little soil pods that blow up correct? ive had trouble rooting in those because the stem seems to hit air with the pods. thats why i just get the 72 seed trays, fill up with promix. then theres no gaps or air pockets for the stem to hit... another suggestion maybe to raise your light. if those are wilting chances are the light is to intense. ive tried cloning under my 600 conversion mh and its just to intense even with the blue light. id say go get some fluro's put em a few inches above the dome and be troublefree.

[bkob89]

Ah...the air pocket sounds like it...the stems weren't too long...and the rooters are pretty big...shit. Am i only suppose to cut the newest growth on each stem? or even the smaller ones up the stem closer to the main stem?

Originally Posted by Aeroguerilla

rapid rooters? those are the little soil pods that blow up correct? ive had trouble rooting in those because the stem seems to hit air with the pods. thats why i just get the 72 seed trays, fill up with promix. then theres no gaps or air pockets for the stem to hit... another suggestion maybe to raise your light. if those are wilting chances are the light is to intense. ive tried cloning under my 600 conversion mh and its just to intense even with the blue light. id say go get some fluro's put em a few inches above the dome and be troublefree.

No you are thinking of peat pellets. Rapid rooters are compressed compost and actually do quite well with cloning.

[FreezerBoy]

A 23 watt cfl will cover 100 clones easily. I'll guess you've left too much plant material on as well. Keep cuts short with leaves well trimmed and see if you can't go dome free as high humidity can be lethal.

[bkob89]

sigh...not only did I not fully snug the clones in the rooters...i left way too much plant material as well...

am i only suppose to clip only the ONE shoot on the end of each stem? or am i to clip any of them with atleast 3 nodes...but only on the actual stem...dont cut the stem...correct?

[FreezerBoy]

You can cut from anywhere you want. The more plant material above ground, the more roots that are required to support it... D'OH! We don't have any roots! @#%&! Give a plant light and water and it will try to process them which is more than they can do right now.

Cloning probably gives more grief than any other area. It certainly sees the greatest disparity from identical procedures. What saves me may kill you dead. Example: Many say domes are required, just as many say domes are death incarnate. Who's right? Whoever got roots.

Hang in there. It took me months to get a single survivor. Now, I can't remember the last time I lost a clone. If your method isn't giving you the results you need, try another method/media.

[dune]

i like cloning in a tub sitting in a tub of water drill holes 1" up the sides. Slide a air hose in to the tub put at bottom of tub that will contain perlite. then add perlite and add water. Cover for 2 days and letting breath a hour a day. then lid off and use a week floro. All other cloning techniques can be applied.

i hit and misses on a few techniques and found this best

[reckon]

Originally Posted by FreezerBoy

Cloning probably gives more grief than any other area. It certainly sees the greatest disparity from identical procedures. What saves me may kill you dead. Example: Many say domes are required, just as many say domes are death incarnate. Who's right? Whoever got roots.

I root in straight coco, simple simple simple, just like sticking a cutting in a glass of water basically,...no dome, rarely any wilt (wide leaves wilt for a day), for me it works nearly 100% of the time.

my buddy who I taught the method to, just CANNOT get it to work for him, so we made him a bubbler,...now he gets nearly 100% success,..........my father learned how to root rose cuttings in peat pellets back when the earth was still cooling,...he gets nearly 100% success rates with his cannabis in peat pellets, if I tried the peat pellets, I'm sure I'd kill every one of them.

so I think freezerboy was right on the money, this board lists no less than 7 different and distinct cloning/cuttings methods, and probably a hundred variations within those methods and you just have to try them out till you find which works for you, your setup and strain.

I will post my straight coco method* in here: the new growers forum, step by step, with very detailed information as soon as one of my mums makes enough shoots (probably within a week)

(*I learned the method on this board, but cannot find the original posting)

[libby]

Freezerboys fav subject, can't grow a cutting under a dome but, encouraged me to keep trying different methods, within a few moon, i was at it, i planned on 6 plants, i have 22 in flower and 9, i think, under flouros.

Wish i never learned to clone, get greedy.

Cheers freezer.