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Old 03-02-2010, 09:05 PM #1
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What's wrong with the cheap stuff?

I'm sure an "experienced" grower can get away with using the common fertilizers like Miracle Grow or Peters... Do you REALLY have to spend 10X more for GH or AN ferts?

Anyone out there do a complete grow using them? How about soiless like 1/2 sphagnum and 1/2 perlite with some dolomite lime added? Will Miracle Grow work for soiless? Does it include enough different things? Everything essential?

I've got a few grows under my belt...I do OK, nothing spectacular, good enough for me to feed my head...and I use AN Sensi grow and bloom...I was just thinking (my bottles are getting low and won't make it past this grow) can I get a 2lb box of Miracle Grow for a couple of bucks and use that instead?

What would you recommend? The Green box 18-18-18 or whatever the general purpose one is...or the Tomato box? For flowering, do you have to switch? To the Bloom box? I could get all three for under $10, far less than the $50-70 the AN or GH products cost, and it will last twice as long.

Anyone out there actually do a grow with these products? How do they compare to the GH or AN? Is it REALLY worth the difference?

A curious mind would like to know...
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:10 PM #2
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I think the problem with miracle grow products is they make pot taste like shit, so if you're cool with getting high while smoking the herbal equivalent of rubber tires.... well more power to ya dude.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:21 PM #3
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generally its just harsh and unbalanced for our applications. it can work, but youll need more micro nutrients and possible add ons like a calcium and magnesium boost. i would use soil and perlite with it, not soiless. its numbers are high and would be at first ok with aggressive vegetation, but would stretch like crazy during flowering due to the excessive nitrogen. you would need to switch over to a schultz african violet mix with high potassium and phos -all of which are available at average places (walmart). they also sell bloom enhancements for cactus that will get you stuff you need, check a local nursery too.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:40 PM #4
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Miracle gro works well, just watch out for burning and salt build up. I recommend half strength if you use miracle gro all purpose. The specialized mixes with high P and K will be better for flowering as OGfarmerted said.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:12 AM #5
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If you want to use MG to grow MJ then use the "Tomato plant food". I have used it before with excellent results.
I current use Maxibloom. It's $15 for 2.2lbs and you use 1 tsp/gal = Lucas formula. I'm not good at math but I know a 2.2lb bag of Maxibloom last more than one 60 day grow of 18 plants in coco in 3.4 L pots.
I've posted this pic several times before, this is Mr.Nice Mango/Widow in coco outdoors fed nothing but MG Tomato plant food and tap...
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:26 AM #6
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you can deff use cheap stuff I have grown monsters on slow release pellets.... any one who tells you other wise... id be looking at there motives.... keep it simple and cheap is my motto
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:31 AM #7
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You definitely don't need the expensive stuff. Even if you bought a quart of GH Flora Micro and Flora Bloom, that would be $30 at the most, and it'd be enough for 105 gallons of nutes. $0.29/gallon?

I just checked someone else post about the Maxibloom powder Guest mentioned, they said it was 5g per tsp. That would mean you could get 200 gallons of nutes from $15... $0.08~ per gallon... not bad...

Man... eight cents a gallon is cheap... does anyone know of anything cheaper that will give results as good as Maxibloom?
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:11 PM #8
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U know what man I used maxi grow n bloom while back cuz a buddy gave it o me. Along with a Cindy 99 clone. ( the original). That lady was HUGE he was like dude
I wish I had her. As far as MG. I used that when I first first grew. And if ur easy and light with it. I'll be fine even the shultz stuff. But the tomato mg is def better. I mean ur gonna be paying a little more to get urself something like maxi for a few nix
extra. And then u won't have to worry about ur bud tasting like rottin ass/with molded creamcheese along with geese poo flavor. (ewwww I'm gross). Cuz I know what geese poo taste like I use it on my bagels.
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these days ive been using GH maxi range...have used other brands here (australia) cheap and expensive ones(hydro canna fertz) and have not found much difference..

pretty happy with the happy with GH...cheaper than my normal brand....was using it at full strength at 1st but after seeing elvme2 grows i have cut it back to 1/2 like he does (i dont have meters for testing) and found it to be cheaper with the same growth....im on a bit of a budget too.HH. =]-~
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