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corradogang* · 02-24-2010, 12:47 AM

Hi, I use hydro nft as I would not feel comfortable carrying bags of soil regulary in and out of a block of flats. Am currently using standard chemical fertiliser and the yield and potency are good but the taste can be lacking, does organic hyro give a better tasting crop? What are the differences?

Dreamscape · 02-24-2010, 01:09 AM

As far as I've been told ... the chemical TASTE is really the only down side of hydro (and maintainence) and that is why alot of people choose to go to organic soil ...

My assumption based upon the above is that the taste will certainly be better than chem ferted hydro. Will it be as good as organic soil ... I don't know but i'm sure its better than the chem ferts ...

corradogang* · 02-26-2010, 01:40 AM

The must be someone that has had experiance on this, I know this thread isn't "what are the best nutes in the world, strongest strain known to man etc but this is a genunine question

jammie · 02-26-2010, 03:06 AM

maybe i don't have the most cultured palate, but i beleive a good flush and slow cure is as important to taste and a smooth even burning joint as organic vs non.

pray4pistils · 03-01-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamscape

As far as I've been told ... the chemical TASTE is really the only down side of hydro (and maintainence) and that is why alot of people choose to go to organic soil ...

Well, there's also the damage that can be done to the natural environment when flooded with refined nutrients. Thus, the topic takes on ethical concerns as well as product quality.

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Originally Posted by Dreamscape

My assumption based upon the above is that the taste will certainly be better than chem ferted hydro. Will it be as good as organic soil ... I don't know but i'm sure its better than the chem ferts ...

A plant that is devoid of chem fertz is going to taste better than one that's saturated to the end. We all know that. However, a purely chemically-grown plant that's been flushed properly isn't necessarily a world of difference. The big advantage from organically-fed plants has to come from somewhere else...

My theory is that the millions of beneficial bacteria, protozoa, nematodes, arthropods, and fungi found in a healthy organic environment deliver a far more complete package of compounds than any synthetic concoction could hope to provide. Not surprisingly, a plant that is sustained by nature's diversity will generally be more resiliant, better resistant to stress, and won't need help from pesticides, sterilization, or other what not.

So... the real question becomes... how will a hydro plant grown with a complete food web compare to that optimized organic soil plant? I don't know, frankly, but I'm working on figuring it out right now! I know for sure, though, that I've gained all the "non-taste" advantages. Nothing ails my plants and I haven't sterilized anything in three years.

Btw, I do a combination of FloraNova (which is a blend of mined salts + organic compounds vs. the typical refined from petroleum products stuff) and traditional raw organic foods. FloraNova + EWC, kelp, fish hydrolysate, alfalfa, oatmeal, and molasses does the trick! The pure organics snobs say this can't be done, but they're delusionally close-minded and miss the whole point.

opt1c · 03-01-2010, 04:56 AM

differences for your setup... organic hydro nutes are less stable than chem based nutes... you can get major ph flux using organic nutes in a res... then with aero organic based nutes are much more likely to clog ur emitters or form compounds that will than chem based ones.

as far as taste and flavor go try adding floranectar to your regime or a similar carb loading product; carboload might work nice for u but i'd stay away from straight molasses as it tends to gunk up things

I've only seen decent organic grows in soil and coco; never anything else... but i'm always happy to see something new

rrog · 03-09-2010, 10:06 PM

I just harvested NL#5 using Organic Hydro. Same exact seeds were previously used in a chem drip system.

Still early but it looks like the yield is as good, but the quality seems better. It was a lot easier, I can say that much. And I like not having artificial chemicals in something I'm going to inhale.

81Renaissance · 03-10-2010, 01:04 AM

Check out https://www.growery.org/forums/showfl.../262585#262585

This is a very experienced grower who has been commercial cropping since the 80's.
I trust him implicitly, as do many others, and this is an interesting experiment.

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corradogang* Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 160	Why go hyro organic? Hi, I use hydro nft as I would not feel comfortable carrying bags of soil regulary in and out of a block of flats. Am currently using standard chemical fertiliser and the yield and potency are good but the taste can be lacking, does organic hyro give a better tasting crop? What are the differences?
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opt1c Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Reagan Belt of California Posts: 1,647	differences for your setup... organic hydro nutes are less stable than chem based nutes... you can get major ph flux using organic nutes in a res... then with aero organic based nutes are much more likely to clog ur emitters or form compounds that will than chem based ones. as far as taste and flavor go try adding floranectar to your regime or a similar carb loading product; carboload might work nice for u but i'd stay away from straight molasses as it tends to gunk up things I've only seen decent organic grows in soil and coco; never anything else... but i'm always happy to see something new __________________ Opt1c's Seed Tek My Current Grow Fall '10 - Under Current 6XXL Hybrid Horizontal 2K and Vert 1.2K Insanity Previous Grows: Summer '08 - Soma Rockbud Outdoors Spring '09 - Mr. Nice Black Widow 30 Site Bato Bucket Coco SOG Fall '09 - Hydro Showdown: Under Current 6XL vs Bato Bucket - DCxGOO - 2,400Ws Winter '09 - Soma Rockbud 2K Handwatered Coco Grow with CO2 Spring '10 - Soma Rockbud A+ in Bato Buckets 3x6 1200watts Spring '10 - Reservoir ChemHazexSourD Under Current Grow
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rrog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,978	I just harvested NL#5 using Organic Hydro. Same exact seeds were previously used in a chem drip system. Still early but it looks like the yield is as good, but the quality seems better. It was a lot easier, I can say that much. And I like not having artificial chemicals in something I'm going to inhale. __________________ __________________ OVERGROW with SOIL Fully Medical MJ Compliant
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03-10-2010, 01:04 AM	#8
81Renaissance Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169	Check out https://www.growery.org/forums/showfl.../262585#262585 This is a very experienced grower who has been commercial cropping since the 80's. I trust him implicitly, as do many others, and this is an interesting experiment. __________________ Just driving some thought here, no change without action, no action without thought.
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02-24-2010, 01:09 AM	#2
Dreamscape Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Astral Plane Posts: 602	As far as I've been told ... the chemical TASTE is really the only down side of hydro (and maintainence) and that is why alot of people choose to go to organic soil ... My assumption based upon the above is that the taste will certainly be better than chem ferted hydro. Will it be as good as organic soil ... I don't know but i'm sure its better than the chem ferts ...
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02-26-2010, 01:40 AM	#3
corradogang* Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 160	The must be someone that has had experiance on this, I know this thread isn't "what are the best nutes in the world, strongest strain known to man etc but this is a genunine question
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02-26-2010, 03:06 AM	#4
jammie ganjatologist Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,589	maybe i don't have the most cultured palate, but i beleive a good flush and slow cure is as important to taste and a smooth even burning joint as organic vs non.
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