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opt1c · 02-23-2010, 10:22 PM

build a frame from 2x4s or something; use black/white poly some duct tape and a stapler to make the walls... u can get a stick on zipper to make an entrance... sturdy enough to hold everything and cheap

but if you don't want to build a cab just buy a tent; the small ones are pretty inexpensive and work great with 400s

NiteTiger · 02-23-2010, 10:32 PM

Unless you're med legal, there is no such time you do not have to worry about smell. I don't care if you use mylar survival blankets as your walls, but you NEED odor control.

And no, I don't mean Glade Plug-Ins

You can do a carbon scrubber for under $50, and you can also do 3-5 for growing. You're going to feel like a giant dumbass if you kiss away ANY of your life in a jail cell over $50.

Sounds like Panda poly is your best bet. You can make a tent with that just with a staple gun, duct tape, and a Tarp Zipper.

chronicCA77 · 02-25-2010, 08:44 PM

The best way to get rid of odors is to change their structure at the atomic level. There are a number of different odor killing sprays can work, but that also means you need to spend time spraying, again and again.

That doesn't work for me.

The gel odor killers are better as you just set them around your home and around the grow to help suck up the odors and keep them under control. But if you begin to get used to the odors, you might have troubles noticing when you need to replace the gels.

A negative ion generator is one of the better ways to go. What this does is helps to clean out the air of any number of odors - smoke, pollen, etc. These are pretty easy to find and can plug into any outlet near the grow room, in the grow room, etc.

Or you might want to invest in an ozone generator. This too changes the odors of the room and neutralizes them, but the ozone smell can be a little strange. Plus, you need to make sure the ozone generator is sized big enough for your entire room or for the hallway beside it. These can also cause damage to your plants, so watch the leaves for spots.

(Also, the ozone can burn your lungs, so don't turn the generator up too high.)

And it's not a good idea to have a whole bunch of odor killers since that generally shows that you're up to something.

:tipha t:

02-25-2010, 09:07 PM

Take the time to plan and save..usually you get what you put

into it. The extra time, effort, and money will get you a better

end result.

jpm · 02-26-2010, 12:12 AM

can you put 10 plants under a hps efficiently?
and how big is an negetive ion generator? is it noisy? what is noisy in a growroom?

libby · 02-26-2010, 12:32 AM

don't ever use anything like styro in your grow, everything would be better if it does not burn..

NiteTiger · 02-26-2010, 02:19 AM

Do not use anything other than a carbon scrubber on your first grow. There is a reason 99% of growers use carbon scrubbers. Out of those that don't, most use Vaporteks, which are a completely different beast.

Do not use any 'gel odor killers around your home' - they're not made to handle the level of odor a grow puts off, and the odor should never be outside your grow.

Negative ion generators are not made for this application, and will quickly be overwhelmed.

Ozone generators of the wrong size can quickly be overwhelmed as well. However, in the process of being overwhelmed, they can actually harm you and your plants.

Get a carbon scrubber, there's a reason it is the industry standard.

NiteTiger · 02-26-2010, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by libby

don't ever use anything like styro in your grow, everything would be better if it does not burn..

Styrofoam insulation panels are used quite frequently in grows. There are even ones made that have a reflective coating on one side that are perfect for our applications.

It would indeed be better if nothing burned, but that's just not practical, unless you're building your grow out of metal. Wood, poly, it all burns.

facelift · 02-26-2010, 08:04 AM

It'll work. However, you need a "cover" 4 walls is fine for veg or 24 hour lighting, but you'll need to block off light coming over the sides of the walls. I agree with Sirus. You don't need to build to code, but you should at least think about building a secure space. I have removable doors on my very ghetto, as in poor cabinet.

You can find a great professional made cabinet at the thrift and 2nd hand stores for cheap. Anything from a book case to a large china cabinet.

Technically you can get was with using a corner of the room and a mylar "space" blanket.

Stonercool · 02-26-2010, 07:09 PM

I don't think negative ion generators are big at all. You can find little ones for not too much money.

The trick is that you usually get what you pay for when you buy cheap things. And since you might getting used to the smell of pot, you might not realize the generator isn't working as well as it should be.

I'd look at prices a bit too - sometimes paying more really is the best way to go.

02-23-2010, 10:22 PM	#11
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NiteTiger Tiger, Tiger, burning bright... Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,256	Unless you're med legal, there is no such time you do not have to worry about smell. I don't care if you use mylar survival blankets as your walls, but you NEED odor control. And no, I don't mean Glade Plug-Ins You can do a carbon scrubber for under $50, and you can also do 3-5 for growing. You're going to feel like a giant dumbass if you kiss away ANY of your life in a jail cell over $50. Sounds like Panda poly is your best bet. You can make a tent with that just with a staple gun, duct tape, and a Tarp Zipper. __________________ *Remember - Every 'elite' started off as someone's bagseed* kingjobber - This hash just uncentered my chi Growing cannabis is only as complicated and expensive as you want it to be. Current Grow: Knowledge Guides: Diatomaceous Earth - The Best Pesticide You've Never Heard Of Pontiac's DIY Link-O-Rama Unofficial Glossary for New Growers The Water Cure- How, when, and why How to remove 'HPS Orange' quick and easy!
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02-26-2010, 12:32 AM	#16
libby Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: boltonian Posts: 450	don't ever use anything like styro in your grow, everything would be better if it does not burn.. __________________ A joint in time saves crime...
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02-26-2010, 02:19 AM	#17
NiteTiger Tiger, Tiger, burning bright... Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,256	Do not use anything other than a carbon scrubber on your first grow. There is a reason 99% of growers use carbon scrubbers. Out of those that don't, most use Vaporteks, which are a completely different beast. Do not use any 'gel odor killers around your home' - they're not made to handle the level of odor a grow puts off, and the odor should never be outside your grow. Negative ion generators are not made for this application, and will quickly be overwhelmed. Ozone generators of the wrong size can quickly be overwhelmed as well. However, in the process of being overwhelmed, they can actually harm you and your plants. Get a carbon scrubber, there's a reason it is the industry standard. __________________ *Remember - Every 'elite' started off as someone's bagseed* kingjobber - This hash just uncentered my chi Growing cannabis is only as complicated and expensive as you want it to be. Current Grow: Knowledge Guides: Diatomaceous Earth - The Best Pesticide You've Never Heard Of Pontiac's DIY Link-O-Rama Unofficial Glossary for New Growers The Water Cure- How, when, and why How to remove 'HPS Orange' quick and easy!
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02-25-2010, 08:44 PM	#13
chronicCA77 New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8	The best way to get rid of odors is to change their structure at the atomic level. There are a number of different odor killing sprays can work, but that also means you need to spend time spraying, again and again. That doesn't work for me. The gel odor killers are better as you just set them around your home and around the grow to help suck up the odors and keep them under control. But if you begin to get used to the odors, you might have troubles noticing when you need to replace the gels. A negative ion generator is one of the better ways to go. What this does is helps to clean out the air of any number of odors - smoke, pollen, etc. These are pretty easy to find and can plug into any outlet near the grow room, in the grow room, etc. Or you might want to invest in an ozone generator. This too changes the odors of the room and neutralizes them, but the ozone smell can be a little strange. Plus, you need to make sure the ozone generator is sized big enough for your entire room or for the hallway beside it. These can also cause damage to your plants, so watch the leaves for spots. (Also, the ozone can burn your lungs, so don't turn the generator up too high.) And it's not a good idea to have a whole bunch of odor killers since that generally shows that you're up to something. :tipha t:
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02-25-2010, 09:07 PM	#14
Sirus Guest Posts: n/a	Take the time to plan and save..usually you get what you put into it. The extra time, effort, and money will get you a better end result.
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02-26-2010, 12:12 AM	#15
jpm Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 74	can you put 10 plants under a hps efficiently? and how big is an negetive ion generator? is it noisy? what is noisy in a growroom?
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02-26-2010, 08:04 AM	#19
facelift This is the money you could be saving if you grow your own weed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: At Home Posts: 1,560	It'll work. However, you need a "cover" 4 walls is fine for veg or 24 hour lighting, but you'll need to block off light coming over the sides of the walls. I agree with Sirus. You don't need to build to code, but you should at least think about building a secure space. I have removable doors on my very ghetto, as in poor cabinet. You can find a great professional made cabinet at the thrift and 2nd hand stores for cheap. Anything from a book case to a large china cabinet. Technically you can get was with using a corner of the room and a mylar "space" blanket.
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02-26-2010, 07:09 PM	#20
Stonercool Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 34	I don't think negative ion generators are big at all. You can find little ones for not too much money. The trick is that you usually get what you pay for when you buy cheap things. And since you might getting used to the smell of pot, you might not realize the generator isn't working as well as it should be. I'd look at prices a bit too - sometimes paying more really is the best way to go.
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