[Fat J]

Doh, too many posts, but hey High - make sure you know what bug you have before starting the battle, what works well on some things is useless on othere, if you have gnats ur lucky and gnatrol will kill em.... if you have root aphids, you're fucked. look at the roots under a 30x+ loupe and see if you see tiny clear aphid lookin bugs crawlin around, if you do and they have little spines on their backs (2 spines) then you have phylloxera and im sorry but ur fucked...

[FoCo(No.Co)]

Originally Posted by CovertCrops

Rhizotonic is incredible for roots. Try it, the results speak for themselves.

Rizotonic is on my wishlist, but I remember asking how much the entire Canna line costs and I really dont think any nutrient line is worth that much. Do you know what the smallest bottle of Rhizo goes for? Would it be worth using if I've already go the little white hairs on my roots?

Originally Posted by Fat J

Hey FoCo -> I use the House&gardens roox excellurator - its kinda pricey but it is a really effective product. I use it with tap water in my cheezy cloner and i get roots in 4 days, its the best root regenerator/booster ive found.

Do you know whats in it? How much is pricey?

[bergerbuddy]

Originally Posted by FoCo(No.Co)

Rizotonic is on my wishlist, but I remember asking how much the entire Canna line costs and I really dont think any nutrient line is worth that much. Do you know what the smallest bottle of Rhizo goes for? Would it be worth using if I've already go the little white hairs on my roots?


Do you know whats in it? How much is pricey?

Smallest bottle of Rizo that i've seen is 1 ltr.. and goes for around 80 u.s.d... you might find it cheaper on the net.. i have not looked..

It is wonderful stuff however..... I have not used the HG but would if I could find it... heard good things about it too.. but used rizo for several years and wouldn't want to have to grow without it

[Yes4Prop215]

had a problem with these little fuckers too. i remember on my old flood trays i would find hundreds of dead fuckers after i did neem oil dumps.

prevention is really hard, because no matter what you do theres always gonna be like 2 or3 tht survive and lay eggs.

the best shit is to just go on with your grow, harvest, then clean house super tough before the next round...

[smokesalot420]

I have an infestation this year too..... Seeing more and more everyday so I'm glad I started treating already. I am using Azamax at medium dosage as a root drench until I can get some Botanigard. Also doing Pyrethrum Bombs every 2 weeks to eliminate flyers. I will post my results with the Azamax.

Just as last year I have green and black aphids, some winged black aphids as well (I believe it is the same one that changes color during it's cycle). I'm taking clones of my veg plants in case my treatments kill them or fail.

These things are all over Nor Cal so if you live in this area (as I do) be ready if you haven't noticed them already.... FWIW, looking at my notes from last year it was around this time that the first wave came out!

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[ourcee]

Originally Posted by spleebale

If you have root aphids or have had root aphids, please let us know the following:


A)How bad was your infestation and what effects have you observed in your plants/grow?

not very bad, had some crawlies on plugs with clones, did have some mothers have slower/stunted growth, seemed susceptible to disease a bit more.

B)Have you grown the same way before with success or with the same problems? Have you grown a different way before with success or the same problems?

different.

I microwave everything I buy (media) before using.

C)Have you treated them before (if so, how and what were your results/conclusions)

I had them on rooter plugs, I assume I had them in my rockwool drip slabs for mothers as well, I used bayer tree and shrub, noticed a burn on plants that got a heavy dose of it, however they DID recover and grow normally from then on. I haven't seen them since however I also discared all remaining media and very thoroughly cleaned my entire grow.

D)What type of medium/nutrients and what type of setup (hand water, ebb/flow etc)

I WAS using rockwool drip slabs when I had the problem, however I noticed it first on my rapid rooters with clones.

now I use coco/perlite with organic nutes in smart pots and have not seen any root aphids since I switched media/cleaned very well.

If you do not have root aphids but have some sort of nutrient lockout/nutrient deficiency/toxic salt buildup, please let us know:

A)What are your symptoms?
B)What is your medium/nutrient regimen/setup (watering etc)?
C)Have you grown the same way before with success or the same problems? Have you grown a different way with success or the same problems?

Thanks!
-WB

no nute issues that i know of, plants now (in coco/perlite) got a weak dose of nutes one week and slightly yellowed, however other than a slight shortage of nutes, no problems, no root aphids, being anal about sterilizing any incoming ANYTHING has saved me from a reinfestation.

[FoCo(No.Co)]

Originally Posted by milehighmedical

I just used some Azamax today. I'm aware that it kills the nematodes too but I don't have time to see if the nematodes work. Right now I'm watching them crawl all over the heavily azamax drenched soil, happy as ever. It doesn't seem to bother them. The pyrethrum doesn't seem to bother them either. There's suddenly a shit load of them, ever since I started trying to treat them. The symptoms on the plant just started kicking in really hard too.

You need the power of real chemicals.

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[Greenmopho]

I've battled phylloxera before, got 'em from SR-71 ! They were the black root aphids, I discovered em on the roots coming out of my 6" RW cubes, before they reached the flying stage. The plants were still in early veg, so I decided to risk it and use a systemic cure. I used the Bayer Tree & Shrub, right in my F/D tray res, at 1/2 the recommended strength, flooded em for 1 hour, drained, cleaned my res with bleach, and flooded em again with pH'd water to rinse em. I also used a hose to do my best to rinse all the eggs and dead bugs and whatever else from the f/d tray. After the rinse, I saw tons of dead bugs floating, and you could see the little larvae and eggs in the water. I let the R/W drain after that for 2 days. The plants looked better than ever immediately after, and never seemed to have gotten stressed by the treatment. The aphids never came back, and the clones taken were great. Its pretty much a rule for me when getting new clones to do a Azatrol dunk for the whole clone now. I haven't had to use the Bayer Tree & Shrub again, although I did treat preventatively on a second batch of clones I purchased somewhere else right after the SR-71 incident, just in case, at only 1/4 of the recommended strength. I now have a strong habit of inspecting my roots on a daily basis (touching 'em even, I know your not supposed to). I also check my water after nute changes for little larvae or eggs (they tend to float or stick to the surface, and can look like little dust particles). I would prefer not to have to use anything systemic, if I can avoid it, but it really will knock them out!