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steppinRazor · 02-10-2010, 08:30 PM

pretty cool.. if i had the money i'd be doing this forsure
i stick to science diet, and almost EVERYTHING i eat my dog gets a piece..
sometimes i'll give her an entire steak to herself..
you know i think shes about due for one today.

anyways while the subject is up, what do you all think about rawhide treats and pig ears? my pittie loves that junk but i hear its not so good for them?

Trichgnomes · 02-10-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PetFlora

They not consume dairy, so anything dairy sourced, including acidophilus, dairy is not natural, although raw milk would be OK to wean. If it's not natural it's probably not healthy for them.

The closest to fresh kill is fresh meat, or chicken, served raw, and preferably organic. But you need to transition to it, by first mixing 10%, 25, 50, 75 to whatever you are currently feeding, then finally 100%.

A raw diet is not sufficient by itself. Your dog also needs:

1. Soil-based Probiotic Organisms, which helps maintain the balance between aerobic and aerobic bacteria in the GI tract, stablize GI tract pH...
2. Digestive Enzymes to break down the food into small elements, so they are easily digested
3. Vital Lipids A combination of oils to maintain skin, eyes, nails, arteries, veins, heart...

I was just curious as to what your definition of natural is, as it is an extremely vague word, that connotes different meaning to different individuals. Digestive enzymes? Like the ones exuded by microbes? I think it is a bit hypocritical to say yogurt is unnatural to feed to a dog, but "digestive enzymes" are not.
I'm not trying to bash your company, but if you want to play semantics about what's natural, I'm sure we could start a whole new thread for that.
I try to raise my dog the same way as my plants, by sourcing as many local ingredients as possible, and emulating the type of nutrition he would be receiving if living in the wild.

dwarfganja · 02-10-2010, 08:43 PM

I was thinking the same thing!

Natural as a "supplement" to Raw feeding would be:
Feed other organs: Heart,liver etc.
Also fish....the whole Fish great for dogs!

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Originally Posted by Trichgnomes

I was just curious as to what your definition of natural is, as it is an extremely vague word, that connotes different meaning to different individuals. Digestive enzymes? Like the ones exuded by microbes? I think it is a bit hypocritical to say yogurt is unnatural to feed to a dog, but "digestive enzymes" are not.
I'm not trying to bash your company, but if you want to play semantics about what's natural, I'm sure we could start a whole new thread for that.
I try to raise my dog the same way as my plants, by sourcing as many local ingredients as possible, and emulating the type of nutrition he would be receiving if living in the wild.

02-10-2010, 08:44 PM

i feed my dog nutro dog food. i hunt with blue ticks and it they eat and crap less. keeps them going. heres some info about the puppy feed.

WE DON’T JUST TALK ABOUT GREAT NUTRITION, WE GUARANTEE IT®
NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy Formula is formulated to provide 100% complete and balanced nutrition for puppies. Like all NATURAL CHOICE® foods, this formula contains no chicken heads, feet or intestines, and no ground yellow corn. We use real chicken protein and high levels of linoleic acid for healthy skin and coat, and strong muscles. Gentle on puppies delicate digestive system. Naturally preserved. Rich in antioxidant vitamins for optimum health. Helps support learning by puppies.

Controlled Growth Formula®
Large and giant breeds are prone to rapid growth, which could lead to hip and joint problems. Our Controlled Growth Formula® provides a unique blend of key nutrients needed to help maintain healthy, balanced growth from weaning to maturity.

Natural Sources of Glucosamine and Chondroitin Building Blocks of Healthy Joints
Good nutrition is important to large and giant breeds for strong hips and healthy joints. Research shows that these two components found in chicken meal help maintain healthy joint cartilage.

Balanced Calcium-Phosphorus for Healthy Balanced Growth of the Skeletal SystemResearch shows that large breed puppies have a reduced requirement for calcium and phosphorus so NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy provides the ideal calcium-phosphorus requirement.Adjusted Protein and Fat Levels
Excess weight can cause bone and joint problems for large breed puppies. NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy provides optimum protein and fat levels to help balance growth while providing plenty of protein for muscles, skin and coat.

Real Chicken Protein
High quality real chicken protein for muscle development and body growth.
L-Carnitine to help utilize fat
L-Carnitine helps utilize fat for lean muscle growth.
Chelated Minerals for Added Health
Chelated minerals are more easily absorbed into your large breed puppy’s system. By providing chelated zinc, and other important minerals, NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy helps your dog stay healthy throughout its life.
Guaranteed to Improve Skin and Coat
With high levels or linoleic acid, combined with other key vitamins and minerals, all the nutrition your puppy needs for healthy skin and shiny coat.
Guaranteed Great Taste
We guarantee the great taste of NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy so you can be sure your puppy will eat enough to meet it’s nutritional requirements.
SMART START™
SMART START™ featuring ALA and DHA helps puppies with learning, brain and vision development.
ALA (Alpha-Linolenic Acid)
Research shows that puppies naturally convert ALA (Alpha-Lenolenic Acid) to DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) to help support better learning. Puppies want to look their best, so we supply fatty acids for a healthy, shiny coat.
DHA
Formulated with high levels of DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) from fish oil, a proven nutrient for brain development.

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WE DON’T JUST TALK ABOUT GREAT NUTRITION, WE GUARANTEE IT®
NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy Formula is formulated to provide 100% complete and balanced nutrition for puppies. Like all NATURAL CHOICE® foods, this formula contains no chicken heads, feet or intestines, and no ground yellow corn. We use real chicken protein and high levels of linoleic acid for healthy skin and coat, and strong muscles. Gentle on puppies delicate digestive system. Naturally preserved. Rich in antioxidant vitamins for optimum health. Helps support learning by puppies

Trichgnomes · 02-10-2010, 09:11 PM

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anyways while the subject is up, what do you all think about rawhide treats and pig ears?

I do not know for sure but I have also heard they are not great. I would stick to raw bones, from a grass fed cow, sourced locally if possible.

Flying Goat · 02-10-2010, 09:17 PM

Guys - I go to my local country feed store & my dogs are all on 16% River Run kibbles, moistened with some fresh, still warm goats' milk in the morning, plus visits to the neighboring hunting camp's gut pile...

Shiniest, healthiest dogs you've ever seen!

PetFlora · 02-10-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by steppinRazor

pretty cool.. if i had the money i'd be doing this forsure
i stick to science diet, and almost EVERYTHING i eat my dog gets a piece..
sometimes i'll give her an entire steak to herself..
you know i think shes about due for one today.

anyways while the subject is up, what do you all think about rawhide treats and pig ears? my pittie loves that junk but i hear its not so good for them?

Make your own jerky. Dogs love it

Blimey · 02-10-2010, 09:41 PM

My (Jack Russel crossbreed) dog gets cooked chicken wings (just cooked in the oven) for her main meal, plus an ample supply of biscuits (markies, gravy bones) just lying around. Also dental sticks and glucosamine sticks (she's middle-aged and starting to suffer from arthritis).

Plus she snaffles the cats' dinners when she can get away with it!

JJScorpio · 02-10-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by steppinRazor

anyways while the subject is up, what do you all think about rawhide treats and pig ears? my pittie loves that junk but i hear its not so good for them?

My dog got very sick for quite a few days. The ones from China, which is what most stores carry, are treated with arsenic, nickel and other bad things. My vet told me many dogs die from them and he recommends never giving dogs rawhide bones. Even if they are treated properly they can block up the dogs intestines if they are prone to swallowing large objects. They can die without surgery to remove the blockage......

If the dog vomits bile you can assume the rawhide was treated with arsenic....

steppinRazor · 02-11-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PetFlora

Make your own jerky. Dogs love it

dude if i made my own jerky, probably less than 1% would go to my dog.. im a fiend for that stuff

02-10-2010, 09:17 PM	#36
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02-10-2010, 09:41 PM	#38
Blimey Take A Deep Breath Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fat City Posts: 1,298	My (Jack Russel crossbreed) dog gets cooked chicken wings (just cooked in the oven) for her main meal, plus an ample supply of biscuits (markies, gravy bones) just lying around. Also dental sticks and glucosamine sticks (she's middle-aged and starting to suffer from arthritis). Plus she snaffles the cats' dinners when she can get away with it! __________________ ""...My deluded friend" he said, "...Everybody in this business knows that all the drug money from the narco- trafficantes finds its way to the City of London. Look at the HSBC bank, how they moved all those millions of dollars for the cartels in my country. Why your country did not prosecute them is clear to us, Great Britain does not care where the money comes from, as long as it comes to Great Britain, and no British Bank will be punished for bringing in the drug money. You people did it to China in the 19th century, and now you do it with the rest of the world. .." "What is clear to this overworked law enforcement agent from a country which is truly suffering from the corrupting effects of Cartel Heroin is that the UK has absolutely no agenda to promote or support any agenda for legalisation, because it would mean a strangling of the supply of illegally-generated drug profits, but then, the UK is not alone in having no intention of lifting the yoke of prohibition!"
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steppinRazor cant stop wont stop Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,703	pretty cool.. if i had the money i'd be doing this forsure i stick to science diet, and almost EVERYTHING i eat my dog gets a piece.. sometimes i'll give her an entire steak to herself.. you know i think shes about due for one today. anyways while the subject is up, what do you all think about rawhide treats and pig ears? my pittie loves that junk but i hear its not so good for them?
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02-10-2010, 08:44 PM	#34
DMXAK47 Guest Posts: n/a	i feed my dog nutro dog food. i hunt with blue ticks and it they eat and crap less. keeps them going. heres some info about the puppy feed. WE DON’T JUST TALK ABOUT GREAT NUTRITION, WE GUARANTEE IT® NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy Formula is formulated to provide 100% complete and balanced nutrition for puppies. Like all NATURAL CHOICE® foods, this formula contains no chicken heads, feet or intestines, and no ground yellow corn. We use real chicken protein and high levels of linoleic acid for healthy skin and coat, and strong muscles. Gentle on puppies delicate digestive system. Naturally preserved. Rich in antioxidant vitamins for optimum health. Helps support learning by puppies. Controlled Growth Formula® Large and giant breeds are prone to rapid growth, which could lead to hip and joint problems. Our Controlled Growth Formula® provides a unique blend of key nutrients needed to help maintain healthy, balanced growth from weaning to maturity. Natural Sources of Glucosamine and Chondroitin Building Blocks of Healthy Joints Good nutrition is important to large and giant breeds for strong hips and healthy joints. Research shows that these two components found in chicken meal help maintain healthy joint cartilage. Balanced Calcium-Phosphorus for Healthy Balanced Growth of the Skeletal SystemResearch shows that large breed puppies have a reduced requirement for calcium and phosphorus so NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy provides the ideal calcium-phosphorus requirement.Adjusted Protein and Fat Levels Excess weight can cause bone and joint problems for large breed puppies. NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy provides optimum protein and fat levels to help balance growth while providing plenty of protein for muscles, skin and coat. Real Chicken Protein High quality real chicken protein for muscle development and body growth. L-Carnitine to help utilize fat L-Carnitine helps utilize fat for lean muscle growth. Chelated Minerals for Added Health Chelated minerals are more easily absorbed into your large breed puppy’s system. By providing chelated zinc, and other important minerals, NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy helps your dog stay healthy throughout its life. Guaranteed to Improve Skin and Coat With high levels or linoleic acid, combined with other key vitamins and minerals, all the nutrition your puppy needs for healthy skin and shiny coat. Guaranteed Great Taste We guarantee the great taste of NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy so you can be sure your puppy will eat enough to meet it’s nutritional requirements. SMART START™ SMART START™ featuring ALA and DHA helps puppies with learning, brain and vision development. ALA (Alpha-Linolenic Acid) Research shows that puppies naturally convert ALA (Alpha-Lenolenic Acid) to DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) to help support better learning. Puppies want to look their best, so we supply fatty acids for a healthy, shiny coat. DHA Formulated with high levels of DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) from fish oil, a proven nutrient for brain development. * WE DON’T JUST TALK ABOUT GREAT NUTRITION, WE GUARANTEE IT® NATURAL CHOICE® Large Breed Puppy Formula is formulated to provide 100% complete and balanced nutrition for puppies. Like all NATURAL CHOICE® foods, this formula contains no chicken heads, feet or intestines, and no ground yellow corn. We use real chicken protein and high levels of linoleic acid for healthy skin and coat, and strong muscles. Gentle on puppies delicate digestive system. Naturally preserved. Rich in antioxidant vitamins for optimum health. Helps support learning by puppies
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