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Old 02-10-2010, 07:23 AM #11
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Hey trichgnomes, great thread, thanks! I had always wondered about this, never would've heard about the BARF thing if I hadn't checked it out, looks like a good place to start. I don't have a dog yet, but I may get one soon. I do have a cat though, I'll definitely learn some things from this thread.

The cat I do have gets California Naturals and Innova canned cat food, definitely much closer to the real diet than any Walmart shit.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:42 AM #12
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If anyone is looking for a great brand, especially for dogs with finicky stomachs try Timberwolf Organics. Check out their web site,a lot of great info. It could also supplement a raw diet. They have a few grain free products for dogs with allergies or food sensitivities. It's a bit pricey but if your dog is family it's worth it.
Clackamas Coot, your dog may be even more spoiled then mine. Do you breed labs?

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If anyone is looking for a great brand, especially for dogs with finicky stomachs try Timberwolf Organics. Check out their web site,a lot of great info. It could also supplement a raw diet. They have a few grain free products for dogs with allergies or food sensitivities. It's a bit pricey but if your dog is family it's worth it.
Clackamas Coot, your dog may be even more spoiled then mine. Do you breed labs?

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I also love the products from Timberwolf Organics - a couple of shops up in Portland offer this product line.

RE: Breeding Labs

I do breed and train hunting Labs and offer, on occasion, fully trained bird dogs. I've been a member of Ducks Unlimited for almost 40 years. I personally hand-train all of my hunting dogs as I'm located on the Pacific Flyway as it were.

My all-time favorite hunting dog is the mother of our last breeding. She, Pisher-Dawg, is the BEST dog I've ever owned. She's my buddy and goes everywhere with me. And yeah - she's spoiled like nobody's business.

I love her to pieces. I trust her and she trusts me through all of life's drama/karma.

Yep ol' Pisher-Dawgz is a great pet as well as a fantastic hunting dog and I love her to pieces.

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Some interesting articles.. What a coinckydink i found this thread my APBT is a gassy lil shit.. And honestly its friggn like poison... lmfao.. So i was starting to google stuff as i found this thread.. thanx for sharing i will keep on doing my search as well.. peace..

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Old 02-10-2010, 10:19 AM #15
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In the world of breeding high-quality dogs it's important (IMHO) to study the canine brain.

It's a known fact that puppies which are human-imprinted at an early stage make for the best pets and/or working dogs within their breed's standards controlled by the AKC.

For example I keep my litter next to my desk because I want them familiar with human voice and human structure as it relates to learning to follow training processes.

For example - I get up every morning @ 4:30 AM and get the 2 hunting dogs out of the kennels as well as the 2 pet dogs ready for their morning walk. We usually do a 1 hour walk and when we get home the kennel dogs (i.e. hunting dogs) are placed back into the kennels and the pet dogs are brought into the house for petting, affection and feeding.

In the morning I generally feed them their morning breakfast of organic brown rice, organic eggs, home-made bacon and a dose of Tilllamook Cheddar Cheese from the Oregon Coast.

With our new litter I let them out and let them down to the living quarters of our home. They get the 'real deal' as far as breakfast. I love watching the puppies pull and tug on my pant legs in anticipation of breakfast treats.

Later in the morning I take the pet dogs and the puppies out to our 'farm' and let them run around and do their 'dog thing' as I feel that letting dogs being dogs is an important component to creating a good pet for others.

I'm close enough to the mother dog that she allows me to do anything I want to do with her puppies. Each day I take a different puppy and carry that puppy around in my arms and talk with them - again trying to get them 'imprinted' with human touch and human voice input.

When a puppy leaves our home I always have the proverbial 'tear in my eye' as I hope/wish that the new owners will love these dogs as much as I do.

Breeding a dog and creating puppies is far more than trying to make a dollar. Humans and canines have a long, long history and I feel that it's important to continue this paradigm.

It's a fact - dogs are man's best friend. Bar none.


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I like adding raw green tripe to my dogs(pitbull) barf/cibble diet..
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Sweet. I'm glad this thread got going. CC, do you feed either, yogurt, kefir, EM, or some type of probiotics as well? I looked at the BARF diet (specifically speaking of the one one coined as such by Dr. Billinghurst (sp). But I felt that Volhard's approach was unique from his, in that it accounted for sources of vitamins/minerals that would be found in parts of animals other than just bones and organ/muscle meat, such as partially digested food in the stomachs of herbivores (which seems to be what you are doing as well, CC, with the rice/quinoa regime).

I also give my dog raw milk when I don't have any yogurt, sourced a couple miles away, (pastured raised, treated with love).
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Just a thought.

Have you ever considered changing to feeding RAW?

You may find it easier and your dog will LOVE you even more...if thats possible haha!!

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we give my dog 1 big scoop of iams weight control, a can of alpo wet dog food and left over meat and cheese, lots and lots of cheese, on a good day she may have 2 or 3 slices before dinner which has some more mixed in, and on some days where there is eggs for breakfast she will have a plate of those in the morning, otherwise she begs for food all day and then eats at night after her walk.

we like to call the lumps all over her, that the vet said are fatty deposits, cheese burgers
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