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PetFlora · 01-29-2010, 04:21 PM

I watched Big Mikes video where he uses actual spectron analysis (?) graphs of mj in veg and bloom showing what N-P-K ratios they actually need (lots of N very little P). I think you should watch it, because if these graphs are correct, no wonder suppliers are attempting to boycott AN.

https://www.growersunderground.com/bl...s-myth-exposed

I went on line and checked all the popular (and not so popular brands) Most of the grow and bloom nutes we are buying aren't anywhere close to what the graphs say they need (surprise coming)! And yet, there is some beautiful looking mj being grown.

The question is How much better yield and taste would grows have if the nutes were actually developed to provide what mj needs at each stage.

After watching the video, I checked my nutes, GH FloraGrow/Bloom, FF Grow Big veg, and Botanicare PBP- Bloom: only the FF Grow Big & PBP Bloom come close to the graphs percentages.

I supplement with sea minerals and FulPower fulvic acid.

After all this, I read an extensive nute comparison thread: AN was one of like 6 nutes he tested. All NPK ratios were posted. I couldn't believe my eyes- AN basic nutes have similar percentages to the competition. SURPRISED? I was! His two examples are bloom boosters- Big Bud and Kushie Kush. WTF?

I'll stick to my basic nutes for now, though DM One is on my short list. I might consider BB or KK if I get over the fact that Big Mike BSd us.

Anybody care to donate DM nutes (or the equivalent) for my next grow journal? My current TAG 2.0 grow journal has over 7,000 views.

ShroomDr · 01-29-2010, 06:06 PM

waits for a link to said video...

I think its pretty funny he's recommending against jumpstart

MadBuddhaAbuser · 01-29-2010, 06:10 PM

big mike from here?

01-29-2010, 06:14 PM

I think Petflora is talking about all the videos on https://www.growersunderground.com/ - You can register your email address and get access to them all....They don't spam your email, just send you AN propaganda every once in a while...

Sam the Caveman · 01-29-2010, 06:17 PM

You said that Dutchmaster One does well.

Thats one of their lower end nute lines. Would it be safe to assume that the Advance and Gold lines will do as well or better?

01-29-2010, 06:29 PM

There is a great nute study for you to check out if you haven't already https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...ght=nute+study

PetFlora · 01-30-2010, 01:23 PM

I have no personal experience with DM. I went to their site but did not see any NPK ratios. Odd to be sure.

PetFlora · 01-31-2010, 04:34 PM

Reread my thread intro. Shocking news.

02-01-2010, 08:33 AM

i have no idea what u are trying to say

toohighmf · 02-01-2010, 11:49 AM

I think he's trying to say fat mike is a P.O.S used car salesman trying to pass off his copies of other proven formulas as AN's own. I liked gold. I still have 5 liters left of A&B. when I run out of micro/bloom I'll use up the gold til its gone.

01-29-2010, 04:21 PM	#1
PetFlora Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,294	If 'Big Mike' is wrong, I don't want to be right I watched Big Mikes video where he uses actual spectron analysis (?) graphs of mj in veg and bloom showing what N-P-K ratios they actually need (lots of N very little P). I think you should watch it, because if these graphs are correct, no wonder suppliers are attempting to boycott AN. https://www.growersunderground.com/bl...s-myth-exposed I went on line and checked all the popular (and not so popular brands) Most of the grow and bloom nutes we are buying aren't anywhere close to what the graphs say they need (surprise coming)! And yet, there is some beautiful looking mj being grown. The question is How much better yield and taste would grows have if the nutes were actually developed to provide what mj needs at each stage. After watching the video, I checked my nutes, GH FloraGrow/Bloom, FF Grow Big veg, and Botanicare PBP- Bloom: only the FF Grow Big & PBP Bloom come close to the graphs percentages. I supplement with sea minerals and FulPower fulvic acid. After all this, I read an extensive nute comparison thread: AN was one of like 6 nutes he tested. All NPK ratios were posted. I couldn't believe my eyes- AN basic nutes have similar percentages to the competition. SURPRISED? I was! His two examples are bloom boosters- Big Bud and Kushie Kush. WTF? I'll stick to my basic nutes for now, though DM One is on my short list. I might consider BB or KK if I get over the fact that Big Mike BSd us. Anybody care to donate DM nutes (or the equivalent) for my next grow journal? My current TAG 2.0 grow journal has over 7,000 views. __________________ Hail Hydro 2.0: New Beginnings https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=342785 https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=329619 *Just because you weren't taught something doesn't mean it's not true, and vice versa*
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01-29-2010, 06:06 PM	#2
ShroomDr CartoonHead Join Date: May 2006 Location: Higher Than You Posts: 3,457	waits for a link to said video... I think its pretty funny he's recommending against jumpstart __________________ All-In-One Flowering Cabinet, Veg Cabinet, & Secret Jardin Intense. 9 Quart Oil Drain Pan + Small Pump = Automated Watering Table LST Pictorial = Timelapse Clone to Harvest! Guaranteed Minimum Analysis, Elemental NPK Profile and Ingredient List of 50+ Nutrient Products!
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01-29-2010, 06:14 PM	#4
bobdobalina420 Guest Posts: n/a	I think Petflora is talking about all the videos on https://www.growersunderground.com/ - You can register your email address and get access to them all....They don't spam your email, just send you AN propaganda every once in a while...
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01-29-2010, 06:17 PM	#5
Sam the Caveman Pimpin witch hoes Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,368	You said that Dutchmaster One does well. Thats one of their lower end nute lines. Would it be safe to assume that the Advance and Gold lines will do as well or better? __________________ Managing disease in Hydro solutions Stem rot, Sclerotinia life cycle and control methods Asprin kills internal plant virus', fungi and bacteria - Cambridge University
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01-29-2010, 06:29 PM	#6
bobdobalina420 Guest Posts: n/a	There is a great nute study for you to check out if you haven't already https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...ght=nute+study
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01-30-2010, 01:23 PM	#7
PetFlora Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,294	I have no personal experience with DM. I went to their site but did not see any NPK ratios. Odd to be sure. __________________ Hail Hydro 2.0: New Beginnings https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=342785 https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=329619 *Just because you weren't taught something doesn't mean it's not true, and vice versa*
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01-31-2010, 04:34 PM	#8
PetFlora Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,294	Reread my thread intro. Shocking news. __________________ Hail Hydro 2.0: New Beginnings https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=342785 https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=329619 *Just because you weren't taught something doesn't mean it's not true, and vice versa*
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02-01-2010, 08:33 AM	#9
organizedcrime Guest Posts: n/a	i have no idea what u are trying to say
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02-01-2010, 11:49 AM	#10
toohighmf Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: on a couch Posts: 2,340	I think he's trying to say fat mike is a P.O.S used car salesman trying to pass off his copies of other proven formulas as AN's own. I liked gold. I still have 5 liters left of A&B. when I run out of micro/bloom I'll use up the gold til its gone.
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