[cobcoop]

An article from the Denver Post. I for one am very lucky to work in a very progressive environment, but many many others do not have that luxury. Anyone have any stories about MMJ and your work place?

https://www.denverpost.com/ci_14261008

[Totah Sam]

I used to work for Comcast. They follow federal policy. I know of two individuals who failed the drug test due to medical marijuana use and now are unemployed.

First off, the teacher blazing up at work? Way bad call! Maybe a small vape would be different, but being a school teacher is not the kinda career whey you could ever expect society to OK a smoke break at lunch! the others thoug, it is BS.

Reading this article and the ensuing comments has brought something to my mind. A friend of mine, who is an RN and an occasional OFF DUTY smoker told me that there is no way to tell from a urine or blood test if a person smoked an hour ago or a month ago. Or more specifically, that someone who is a heavy daily smoker builds up enough thc in his system that he could quit for a month and test the same as an occasional smoker who smoked that morning. In my friends opinion, this is why MJ will never be legal.

In thinking about this I worry that he may have something. It is all about placing blame in the corporate world... it really is. If someone gets hurt on their job and tests positive for mj then it is an easy way for the company to clean their hands of it and they like that. If someone is a threat to a superior (ie. smart enough to do the superiors job better) who suspects them of occasional use, they could possibly order a random test and have that person removed or at least black marked. Regardless if it has no bearing on the persons job function. This is where it all turns to bullshit.

Another friend of mine is a waitress and got a serious burn over the 4th of July from a firework incident and had to take a few days off work due to her hand being bandaged. Her company ordered a drug test from her for her absence even though she wasn't claiming workman's comp, nor was she at work or supposed to be at work when the accident occurred. It was her day off... She had smoked a few days before the incident and they fired her based on the drug test results!

Anyone who has ever worked in the service industry knows that people miss shifts pretty regularly and not often for a real reason like a bad burn on your hand. Usually it is a hangover or just having something better to do! Obviously, they wanted to get rid of her for something else and used this opportunity to fire her without effecting their unemployment insurance record.

I know everyone is different, but for me I don't often feel "impaired" by mj. Sure my outlook on life and my mood is a little different. Short attention span for the first 30 minutes or so sometimes, but never really physically impaired like alcohol. Maybe when I first started smoking, but 20 years later I don't. I have smoked a few strains that knocked me down a peg or two, but those are rare and really not what I look for in a preferred smoke other than at bed time. Regardless, I am never more than a couple hours from where I was before I smoked. Alcohol of course leaves your system far quicker, but you are impaired for as long as it is in your system. They can give you a breathalyzer and have a good idea if you are drunk or sober pending tolerances between people.

We all know that one of the huge money makers in the business of mj prohibition is testing. This is a billion dollar business that runs hand in hand with the phama and insurance companies. Insurance companies that provide workman's comp and medical insurance for large corporations are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies and the testing companies. THAT is a big tree to fell.

I am surprised that there has not been an independant, pro-mj initiative to develop an accurate means of testing for mj that shows actual impairment vs a 7-30 day history of random use.

Is there anyone working on this? It does make sense that an officer in the field would need a simple and acurate way to judge impairment. If there is an accident or other violation, ya gotta know where to put the blame!

Does anyone know about the science of this? Is this even possible?

Jed

I believe when there is a market for an impairment test, like when cannabis is made legal, some one will figure it out and sell it. Right now there is no incentive.

Originally Posted by grasspass

I believe when there is a market for an impairment test, like when cannabis is made legal, some one will figure it out and sell it. Right now there is no incentive.

I guess I'm saying that there is incentive now for not having that test...

[One Love 731]

I got fired from my last job for reading the grow bible at my desk while on break, I have been growing strong ever since. All things happen for a reason, the trick is seeing the doors that open when others close. Because of my criminal record I cant get a job at McDonalds although I maintained a General Contractors for 8+ years. Life is good my friends and harvest will come soon enough. Karma, One Love

I heard there is a new handheld test soon to be released for police use. Supposedly it will be able to tell if ur high at the exact moment.

[cobcoop]

I love the double standard, cops can invade your privacy anytime they wish, but it takes the ACLU going to court to see what they are up to...

[Hydro-Soil]

There's NO way to develop a device that can tell if you're 'impaired' right away. Testing maybe... but not just through urine or breath or blood.

I guarantee that if you gave someone the same lvl of cannabinoids that I use daily.... they'd be completely wasted. Conversely, I lose functionality if I slack off.

You'll be able to measure the 'amount' to some degree but never someone's tolerance. Again, you have to actually 'test' them. Traffic enforcement already has the sobriety tests. If you fail those, you're intoxicated... period.
If you PASS, who gives a crap what levels of cannabinoids are in that person?

Testing for cannabinoids for employment is unconstitutional and I, for one, have quit working for people that require it years ago.

Stay Safe!

Originally Posted by milehimedi

I heard there is a new handheld test soon to be released for police use. Supposedly it will be able to tell if ur high at the exact moment.

name or a link?

Originally Posted by Hydro-Soil

I guarantee that if you gave someone the same lvl of cannabinoids that I use daily.... they'd be completely wasted. Conversely, I lose functionality if I slack off.

Well, I think that they would certainly have to have some generalization. It would be interesting to know what type of limit they set and how they set it. There is a big difference in my impairment now vs what it was when I first started smoking. Same is true with alcohol though...

Originally Posted by Hydro-Soil

You'll be able to measure the 'amount' to some degree but never someone's tolerance. Again, you have to actually 'test' them. Traffic enforcement already has the sobriety tests. If you fail those, you're intoxicated... period.
If you PASS, who gives a crap what levels of cannabinoids are in that person?

I fully agree on this point, but to the people outside of the mj culture they relate mj intoxication to alcohol intoxication, or worse crack-meth-heroine... A device that can test levels is enough to shut them up, yet would mostly not be used unless somebody was obviously impaired and failed the manual tests. In this case the device would be affirmation from a legal standpoint like the breathalizer is now. That is what we need and would be OK in my book.

Jed