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TLoft13 · #41 02-05-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by simon

That's one of the nice things about the practice; it can be scaled for almost any grow. I started working on it with a 600 watt garden. Now, some 3000 watts later, it still proves itself.

Simon

+ repped, Big thanks to you!
Does this work with LARGE containers, in the same way?
Any notable difference where i put the meter (top, bottom ect.)?
TLoft13

Kcar · #42 02-05-2010, 03:54 PM

Hey Simon,
Would you say 60-65% RH for curing and 55-60% RH for storage?

simon · #43 02-05-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by harold

interesting, thanks for the info.....

ive used desiccant in the past, hoping when the time was near to puff i could burp the jars to let the moisture back into the bone dry herb (sloppy method, this is growing in mold country though) this seemed to spoil the quality of the bud, aroma, taste wise.

simon, is desiccant a no-no?

I've only used desiccant to keep moisture at bay in a large storage container filled with vacuum sealed (then sealed again) jars. If the cure goes well, the product-filled, sealed container shouldn't need any further effort. The remaining moisture in the stems, as well as in the flower mass, will maintain a stable environment.

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Originally Posted by BENJI

Nice info simon just wondering were you store your jars when curing and after, i have a friend who puts them in his fridge...

I store the product in a cool, dry basement. The jars are packed, vacuum sealed, vacuum sealed again in a large bag, then put in a Rubbermaid-type tub lined with a contractor's garbage bag. I typically toss some desiccant into the bag. If storing for a very long term, I re-vacuum seal once a year or so.

It's important to note that the product should remain at a constant RH for ~5 days. Even then, if the flowers were brought down to that RH relatively quickly - say, 1 week vs 3 weeks - one should err on the side of caution and bring the RH down to the lower side of the scale - ~55-57%. OTOH, if the flowers' RH was brought down relatively slowly, it can be stored at ~60% RH. Though the difference, on paper, is just a few percentage points, it can be literally felt on the product, itself.

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Originally Posted by TLoft13

+ repped, Big thanks to you!
Does this work with LARGE containers, in the same way?

Absolutely. I typically use 1gal jars, and sometimes 2gal in the initial stages. There's no reason to think that a hygrometer dropped into a 18gal tub wouldn't work the same way.

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Any notable difference where i put the meter (top, bottom ect.)?
TLoft13

Once the product's RH is stable, placement makes no difference. If there's excess moisture in the stems, readings will vary with location.

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Originally Posted by Kcar

Hey Simon,
Would you say 60-65% RH for curing and 55-60% RH for storage?

You bet!

There's some play in those numbers. Say, you dried on a rack for 4-6 days, jarred the product when it felt dry, but the stems still had a little flex. At this point, you can bring the product down at virtually any desired speed. If it's a commercial crop, it can be stable at ~65% in a matter of a week, and feel sticky and full of resin. I wouldn't suggest storing those flowers at that RH long term, though, as they'll surely gain moisture over the course of just a few weeks.

If that same flowers were brought down to ~65% RH slowly, they can be stored at the higher side of the scale, especially if a more resinous-feeling, if you will, end product is desired.

Simon

AKDrifter · #44 02-06-2010, 11:12 AM

Excellent info. I just picked up three after reading this thread a few days ago. I activated the three, two are on and one is +1% RH from the other two, that's darn good for the price.

I also saw the previous posts about the tobacco storage and such. I have stored loose bud in a humidor before, it worked great, if you do not mind the Spanish cedar smell. You can buy humidity regulating beads that will maintain RH at 60%, 65%, or 70%, they absorb humidity when the air is wet and release it when the RH drops, charged with nothing but distilled water they are not going to hurt anything.
A large walk in humidor minus the Spanish cedar set at 60f and 60%rh would be the ultimate, "the Ganjador" for those that have everything, a walk in with 25 aged strains for your smoking pleasure, built off the billiard room across from the bar. I wonder how long bud at 60%rh would stay good in a closely monitored environment.

simon · #45 02-06-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AKDrifter

A large walk in humidor minus the Spanish cedar set at 60f and 60%rh would be the ultimate, "the Ganjador" for those that have everything, a walk in with 25 aged strains for your smoking pleasure, built off the billiard room across from the bar. I wonder how long bud at 60%rh would stay good in a closely monitored environment.

You're a man after my own heart. lol

Simon