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Old 01-23-2010, 06:48 PM #1
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Talking Finn'SCRog - GHS Trainwreck & Mystery Sativa

Hello to everyone and terve kaikille!

Tässä olis nyt minun uusi projekti. Minulle on paljon helpompi kirjoitta englaniks, mutta oletan että te kaikki ymmärätte Voitte kummiski kirjoittaa ihan millä kielella haluatte, mutta itse en puhu paljon muuta ku suomea ja englantia

Veg Day 1

This will be my third grow.

Equipment:

Seeds: Feminized Trainwreck from Greenhouse Seeds Co. Flowering time is 8-9 weeks. Also picked up about a hundred 'Mystery Sativa (MS)' seeds from a local grower. Flowering times are 10-12 weeks for these seeds. Real lineage is unknown, except that they are from a hermie, but I was told that 1 out of 3 was a 'good' plant and wouldn't hermie, so I'm taking my chances. More on that later...
Soil: Testing out a couple different local soils: The cheapest and most expensive in the supermarkets; Rainbow Kukkamulta (produced by Kekkila) and Biolan Musta Multa. These soils are pre-fertilized, so I won't be using my nutes very much. I'll mix in about a quarter to one third of potting gravel (Closest thing to perlite I can find here, it's very light and airy). For the seedlings I'm using Kekkila Cactus and Seedling soil plus vermiculite.
Nutes: Canna Terra Vega 3-1-4 (for veg if needed) , Canna Terra Flores 2-2-4, Plagron, Green Sensation Top Activator 0-9-10 (Flores for flowering weeks 1-6/7, the top activator for weeks 2-6/7 of flowering as needed)
Light: 400 Watt HPS (getting a new bulb soon, probably Philips Son-T-Plus 55,000 Lumens) with Cooltube 12cm x 39cm long
Ventilation: 1 RUCK Tube fan RK100, 220m³ per hour, (129cfm), 10cm & 12cm ducts. Also a huge (for this setup) 15" axial fan that I'll try to squeeze in somewhere in the closet to move fresh air around.
Odor Control: Active Carbon Filter, 250 m³ per hour. 50cm long with 12cm connections, approx. 2,3 kg active carbon filling
Closet & Cabinet: Now a new cabinet: 97cm x 57cm x 174cm tall (38in. x 22.5in. x 68.5in.) for veg and flowering. I kept my old closet: 57cm x 57cm x 172cm tall (22.5in x 22.5in. x 67.5in.) to be used as a 'dark room' for the MS's, as they will be flowering sooner than the TW's (also temporary veg room)
Vegetation: 18/6 light cycle

Up until today:

Germinated the last two Trainwreck (TW) seeds I had on Monday Jan. 18. Then decided the next day to sprout three of the Mystery Sativas (MS) hoping to get at least one that wouldn't hermie.

One of the TW's, TW2, emerged from the soil on Jan. 21 and is doing great. MS2 and MS3 are just poking out of the soil today, Jan. 23. I can see TW1 just beneath the soil surface trying to come up. MS1 is nowhere to be seen, but I did germinate it in a cup of water (BTW - not recommended but I didn't know how old these seeds were...) so it should pop through in a couple days.

The Plans:

The TW's will be veged for about 4-5 weeks. I'll LST first and then start the Scrog just before flipping the lights. Each TW will have their own screen cut into a triangular shape (makes it easier to move around and flush). Might also take some clones before flowering.

I'm expecting for MS's to hermie, so I'll only veg them for a week or two before putting them in the dark room for 12 hours every night to initiate flowering. If I find a good MS, I'll grow it out, harvest and re-veg to take clones from. I don't think I'll be putting these under a screen, don't really want to waste my time if they are going to hermie. But some LST will definitely be done.

I'm expecting now that 2 of the MS's will hermie and be killed off, so I'll also try to take a couple clones from the better TW. I really want to keep my plant count down to 5 total (including clones) but we'll see how it goes.



I'll be updating about once a week, more if there's anything else going on. Hope you enjoy the show!

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New cabinet. Still need some duct, fresh active carbon and a new HPS before I put it together.


TW2 under a 20w CFL


TW1, MS1, MS2 and MS3
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:40 PM #2
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:35 AM #3
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tervetuloa vain forumille.
mulla oli viime kasvatuksessa lähes identtinen sotkan "jenni"-kaappi ilman tuota ylälokeroa. otti tosi helpolla kosteusvauriota jonka seurauksena nuo oven kiinnittimet irtosi ja toisen puolen ovi rojahti kokonaan irti.. piti pulteilla laittaa sivuseinistä läpi että pysyivät kiinni. jotain tukirakenteita suosittelisin tekemään kun näyttää ettei sulla ole sokkeliakaan pitämässä palasia toisissaan kiinni, jos tuo takaseinä on samanlainen parin millin liuska ku mun kaapis oli niin parin kuukauden intensiivisen ilmankosteuden jälkeen voin olettaa että alkaa melko hazardisti huojumaan sivusuunnassa tuokin kaappi ja pultit antamaan periksi.
piis änd lööv.. jään innolla seuraamaan
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:11 AM #4
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Terve Herbal and Bud-O-Phile!

Kiitos vinkistä, täytyy sitten seurata. En tiedä mistä tuo kaappi on alunperäisin, ostin sen kirpparilta... 25 €

Mulla oli vähän saman tyyppinen, vaan pienempi viimekerralla, mutta ei ollut mitään ongelmia sen kans ja kahet sadotkin valmiiks sillä. Ehkä oli sen verran hyvä ilmanvaihto ettei kereny kostumaan. Toki nyt on enemmän kasveja tulossa ja sama ufo, niin se voi olla ongelma tällä keralla... Katson jos saisin kaikki tuettu jotenkin paremmin.
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tervetuloa ja hyvä aloitus sekä onnea kasvatukselle.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:39 PM #6
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Veg Day 9

One TW didn't make it, and also had some bad luck with other MS's. Probably not so much luck as poor gardening.

Started a 4 more MS seeds and they were all successful.

Finally assembled the closet. I bought fresh active carbon and a new Philips Son-T-Plus 400w HPS, but I'll wait for the plants to get a little bigger before using them. For now they are under the old HPS with no carbon filter. Temps are from 28-30 C, not ideal, but I had the same temps before with no problems.

1 TW and 1 MS are about a week ahead of the other 4 MS. They each had their own 20w CFL, and didn't stretch too much. I'll bury them a little once I repot.

Cabinet setup:


1 TW and 1 MS at 9 days veg


The other 4 MS, popped up a couple days ago


Thanks for stoppin in!
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Hyvin on lähtenyt käyntiin seurailen ja odotan uutta päivitystä lajikkeesi seurassa.
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Day 16 Veg

TW and MS1 got some bigger containers.

The other 4 are just over a week old.

TW is front and center
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Hyvin on lähtenyt käyntiin.. mikä mahtaa kasveja vaivata kun lehdet keltaiset ravinne puutos vai liikakastelu anna viikon välein noin pieninä vettä ja merilevä uutetta.
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Hyvin on lähtenyt käyntiin.. mikä mahtaa kasveja vaivata kun lehdet keltaiset ravinne puutos vai liikakastelu anna viikon välein noin pieninä vettä ja merilevä uutetta.
Terve litletown!

Hyvä kysymys, ajattelin ite vähän samaa, silti ne kasvaa mukavasti joka päivä... ja tuo kuva tekee sen pahemman näköseks ku miten ne oikeasti on.

Voi olla ehkä myös liian kuuma sielä kaapissa. En usko että kastelen liikaa, aina kokeilen purkit nostamalla niitä. Pistin noihin maitopurkeihin 2-2-1 suhteella taimimultaa, lecasoraa ja Rainbow kukkamultaa (jossa on jo ravinteita).

Ehkä olis ideaa tuossa merileväuutessa, en ole ennen kuulu siitä (mikähän se on englaniks?). Katon jos näkyy kaupoissa, vai saako sitä vain jossain erikoisliikeissä?

Kiitos käynistä!
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