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01-18-2010, 02:56 AM

hey

im about to do a run of GO with r/o water for a crop of meds. should i be better off using a soilless mix like sunshine organic #4 or should i mix up an organic soil mix with some nutes in it? i dont know what the advantage of either would be cause im feeding with liquid organic nutes.

thx

Chem&M · 01-18-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by organizedcrime

hey

im about to do a run of GO with r/o water for a crop of meds. should i be better off using a soilless mix like sunshine organic #4 or should i mix up an organic soil mix with some nutes in it? i dont know what the advantage of either would be cause im feeding with liquid organic nutes.

thx

General Organics is fine in soilless and soil. It will work in some types of hydro but can clog lines and rez's. It worked great in soilless for me, but don't skimp if you do. Get the Bio-Root and Bio-Weed too. Did you see the $ on the Bio-Bud? $37 per quart at only 2.5ml a Gal. It works, but the price will keep me from using it in the future.

Chem&M · 01-19-2010, 05:13 PM

Wanted to add that G.O. has a pretty bad upward PH drift in the first 24 hours. Molasses helped me stablelize but I dislike the addition of yet another product. It's not the simplest.

Irie_Lion · 01-20-2010, 02:05 PM

was thinkin bout using this line in straight coco and was wondering if anyone else had any experience with it? I dont currently have a ph pen so im kinda limited at the moment but if anyone can tell me what the ph once nutes are added to RO water that would be much appreciated as well!!! thanks

Chem&M · 01-21-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Irie_Lion

was thinkin bout using this line in straight coco and was wondering if anyone else had any experience with it? I dont currently have a ph pen so im kinda limited at the moment but if anyone can tell me what the ph once nutes are added to RO water that would be much appreciated as well!!! thanks

When I add Bio-Root, Cal/Mag+, Bio-Weed, and the Grow formula, it is usually between 4.6-4.9. HTH.

If you want a specific combo, I could check.

Irie_Lion · 01-21-2010, 02:15 PM

Cool thanks for the info...I was hoping that the ph would be a lil higher....Does anyone see future problems if i was to use that solution for veggin in just coco? Btw What medium do u use them nutrients on? also is that RO water or tap? If u can do one too for the bloom cycle mix that would awesome

Thanks again.

Chem&M · 01-21-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Irie_Lion

Cool thanks for the info...I was hoping that the ph would be a lil higher....Does anyone see future problems if i was to use that solution for veggin in just coco? Btw What medium do u use them nutrients on? also is that RO water or tap? If u can do one too for the bloom cycle mix that would awesome

Thanks again.

Give me till the end of the day and I'll post everything for the Veg and Bloom sections.

I run r/o water and will just use the basics if you like.

I have all the additives, so please tell me what you want mixed exactly.

Oh yeah, I run a coco/hydroton mix.

Irie_Lion · 01-22-2010, 12:33 AM

Hmmm i thought i posted a reply but i guess someting didnt work out lol...anyways i also have the complete line excluding the Diamond Black. So if u could just mix up the veg/bloom solutions according to their feed schedule that would be great. Btw what was your experience using these nutes in the coco/hydroton medium u use? Thanks again for all the help!!!

Good vibez

Chem&M · 01-22-2010, 01:31 AM

I have to mix and feed in the morning, so I can post it then. I can say with absolute certainty that it has always fallen between 4.7 and 5.3 for both. Always. I'll give you my exacts in the AM.

I found it was an alright line. I need to work with it a little more. On the one hand you have a lot of versatility with the "add-on's", but that means more money too.

For me, I chose it because it was Vegan. That was important to me and worth the cost. It should go without saying that I didn't use the Bio-Marine for that reason. I want to like it, and I'm not disappointed, but I can't say it's better than anything else I've used.

Bottom Line: If having vegan plant food is important to you, then this is top notch. If you don't care, I can't say the expense is justified over other lines.

Irie_Lion · 01-22-2010, 02:22 AM

Yea that was one of the reason's i called them up and asked for a sample line cuz it was supposed be vegan etc...I hardly use the biomarine since it has a stronger odor and my wife cant stand it lol. What did u find was a good feeding schedule for your plants in coco using it? I already use it on a happy frog/coco mix and seems to work nice...its just trying to figure out what to feed and when in straight coco or coco/hydroton so i dont spoil a future crop. Does the low ph cause any lockout ? Thanks again for takin the time to answer my questions!

01-18-2010, 02:56 AM	#1
organizedcrime Guest Posts: n/a	General Organics hey im about to do a run of GO with r/o water for a crop of meds. should i be better off using a soilless mix like sunshine organic #4 or should i mix up an organic soil mix with some nutes in it? i dont know what the advantage of either would be cause im feeding with liquid organic nutes. thx
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01-21-2010, 02:15 PM	#6
Irie_Lion Free up the Herbs....Let the Sacrament grow! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: usa,jamaica Posts: 2,888	Cool thanks for the info...I was hoping that the ph would be a lil higher....Does anyone see future problems if i was to use that solution for veggin in just coco? Btw What medium do u use them nutrients on? also is that RO water or tap? If u can do one too for the bloom cycle mix that would awesome Thanks again. __________________ "We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations, but to our fellow men within the human community." ~Haile Selassie I~
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01-22-2010, 12:33 AM	#8
Irie_Lion Free up the Herbs....Let the Sacrament grow! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: usa,jamaica Posts: 2,888	Hmmm i thought i posted a reply but i guess someting didnt work out lol...anyways i also have the complete line excluding the Diamond Black. So if u could just mix up the veg/bloom solutions according to their feed schedule that would be great. Btw what was your experience using these nutes in the coco/hydroton medium u use? Thanks again for all the help!!! Good vibez __________________ "We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations, but to our fellow men within the human community." ~Haile Selassie I~
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01-22-2010, 02:22 AM	#10
Irie_Lion Free up the Herbs....Let the Sacrament grow! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: usa,jamaica Posts: 2,888	Yea that was one of the reason's i called them up and asked for a sample line cuz it was supposed be vegan etc...I hardly use the biomarine since it has a stronger odor and my wife cant stand it lol. What did u find was a good feeding schedule for your plants in coco using it? I already use it on a happy frog/coco mix and seems to work nice...its just trying to figure out what to feed and when in straight coco or coco/hydroton so i dont spoil a future crop. Does the low ph cause any lockout ? Thanks again for takin the time to answer my questions! __________________ "We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations, but to our fellow men within the human community." ~Haile Selassie I~
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01-19-2010, 05:13 PM	#3
Chem&M Mountains in my backyard, where they suppose to be.... Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: High Posts: 779	Wanted to add that G.O. has a pretty bad upward PH drift in the first 24 hours. Molasses helped me stablelize but I dislike the addition of yet another product. It's not the simplest.
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01-20-2010, 02:05 PM	#4
Irie_Lion Free up the Herbs....Let the Sacrament grow! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: usa,jamaica Posts: 2,888	was thinkin bout using this line in straight coco and was wondering if anyone else had any experience with it? I dont currently have a ph pen so im kinda limited at the moment but if anyone can tell me what the ph once nutes are added to RO water that would be much appreciated as well!!! thanks __________________ "We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations, but to our fellow men within the human community." ~Haile Selassie I~
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01-22-2010, 01:31 AM	#9
Chem&M Mountains in my backyard, where they suppose to be.... Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: High Posts: 779	I have to mix and feed in the morning, so I can post it then. I can say with absolute certainty that it has always fallen between 4.7 and 5.3 for both. Always. I'll give you my exacts in the AM. I found it was an alright line. I need to work with it a little more. On the one hand you have a lot of versatility with the "add-on's", but that means more money too. For me, I chose it because it was Vegan. That was important to me and worth the cost. It should go without saying that I didn't use the Bio-Marine for that reason. I want to like it, and I'm not disappointed, but I can't say it's better than anything else I've used. Bottom Line: If having vegan plant food is important to you, then this is top notch. If you don't care, I can't say the expense is justified over other lines.
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