[LEDGirl]

I have received several requests for a Vertical LED lighting system over the past 6 months, but before we begin the production of one, we need to find out what kind of a market truly exists for these lights.

The new vertical light we engineered has been approved for manufacturing, but the cost to make the mould for this unit is substantial. This means we would need to sell quite a few of them before we begin making any money on them. The unit would contain between 500-650W of LED's, and retail around $1500 shipped. It would supply enough light to support a 2.5'-3' radius around the bulb, with a width maxing out around 3'. For you vertical guys out there, this should give you a pretty good idea of what our light would be able to do.

Now it's up to all of you to let us know if there is a genuine interest for this product. If the demand is high enough, we will begin production of a seriously awesome looking light.

[VerdantGreen]

lol i was just thinking about a vertical led the other day. it would be a good way of increasing the 'footprint' of led's so the grow area would be bigger and more use might be made of the high par wattage. interesting to see if the one i dreamed up in my head will be similar to your design.

[Okiedope]

is it going to be tube shaped? what is the height of the units? or what would be the 'height' of the footprint if that makes sense? would love to hear some more details. thanks.

I'm a bit confused on the configuration you're referring to, LEDGirl...

Are you talking about a flat panel emitting light or a vertical, cylindrical 360* light doodah?

muA

[MeanBean]

Slim to none... Wasn't the vertical system created around the bulb? Seems like with led we can come up with something better now that we can evenly spread the light, not build the system around the light.

[Sam the Caveman]

I've been considering your leds for a vertical set up.

I was going to use 4 180watts, and mount two back to back, and hang them from a light mover.

But I might need 6 to equal a similar yield of a 3k set up.

So, yeah, I would buy one if the yield would be comparable to a 3k hps vertical. I would guess a light coverage area of 6' tall.

Another thing to consider, the ideal cola distance from your leds is (i'm guessing) 6" to 12" compared to 18" to 24" for hps. This results in a much smaller total canopy area, assuming a circle canopy, no light mover. I know your led buds are much denser than hps, but personally, I think it would be a stretch to say the increased density would bridge the gap of such a large loss in canopy area.

I'd recommend you design some brackets for mounting you current panels back to back and sell them with one of those spinning light movers, like this one



The brackets could be a different length for each appropriate light panel, making the canopy area more in line with the comparable wattage hps canopy. A bracket that separates the led panels by 12" would also increase the canopy circle by 12".

I'm just thinking out loud here, hope you don't mind.

[turdbird]

I think most people that grow vertical do it to maximize the efficiency of HID lights. Maybe also to maximize floor space. I think vertical growers are a minority. Vertical growers that want to use LEDs are probably an even smaller minority. I don't think that designing an LED fixture for vertical grows would be playing to the strengths of LEDs.

[Mr.Meds]

wouldn't you build them and test them before you sell them? Sounds interesting though.

[LEDGirl]

Originally Posted by Okiedope

is it going to be tube shaped? what is the height of the units? or what would be the 'height' of the footprint if that makes sense? would love to hear some more details. thanks.

Originally Posted by medi-useA

I'm a bit confused on the configuration you're referring to, LEDGirl...
Are you talking about a flat panel emitting light or a vertical, cylindrical 360* light doodah?
muA

The unit will emit light for a 3' height, and a 2.5'-3' radius (meaning circle) around the bulb.

It is a custom configuration that we designed, which is cylindrical in shape. It emits light in all directions, just like a HID bulb would. The total casing would probably come out to 8"-10" thick (imagine a cool tube).

Originally Posted by Mr.Meds

wouldn't you build them and test them before you sell them? Sounds interesting though.

We don't grow vertically, we produce LED Grow Lights based on science and customer requests. The vertical light would use our light engine configuration, which we designed specifically so that we could create new lights, and always know what the outcome will be. All of our units share the light engine, the main difference between them is how many engines each unit contains. So the growth potential has already been calculated, but now we need to know the demand for a such a product, as we have had several customer inquiries over the last several months. Smart design allows us quick innovation, but without a sizable market there would be no point

Originally Posted by turdbird

I think most people that grow vertical do it to maximize the efficiency of HID lights. Maybe also to maximize floor space. I think vertical growers are a minority. Vertical growers that want to use LEDs are probably an even smaller minority. I don't think that designing an LED fixture for vertical grows would be playing to the strengths of LEDs.

You could very well be correct. I agree that a circle design doesn't necessarily play to the strength of LED's either, but if it's what enough people want then so be it lol.

[ChaosCatalunya]

Would it not be best to knock up some prototypes, and get them tested by Vert growers, so any possible problems can be identified and modifications made before you pressed GO ! on a large scale production run ?


It would be really interesting to see if the benifits of Vert growing can carry over to LED lights.