[Hydro-Soil]

Originally Posted by Mr Celsius

Yes, you could probably blind yourself with cfl's... but it would be funny. You goto the doctor and he asks, why do you think your vision has degraded so rapidly? You answer, cause I grow weed with 2000w of CFL's.

Actually... it's not funny and you can do it with a 23w bulb.

You forget that most CFL grows are micro... meaning small spaces. What's the best way to see what you're doing when you have your head crammed in your box? Why, turn on those CFL's a few inches from your head.... they're just CFL's... right?

Unless you have 3 foot arms... I'd suggest putting an incandescent or other non-uv throwing light in your cab when working in there. I can tell you I've experienced vision issues after only a month, working up close with CFLs and I'll not take that kind of issue lightly.

Stay Safe!

Edit: Or.... you can say I'm imagining things and take your own chances. Just saying.

[SuperConductor]

Yep cfls are definitely worse than hps.

[Mr Celsius]

Originally Posted by SuperConductor

Yep cfls are definitely worse than hps.

Huh, I wouldn't have guessed that. I just assumed HID's were higher output of lumens, so they would be more intense on the eyes. Makes sense though that you're working closer to the CFL though; square inverse laws says the closer you are to something, the more intense it is.

[00420]

good stuff celsius...... i allways put my shade's on all so do long arm'd shirt's just cuz.....

i call 1st sticky in the vert fourm..... this is important how can we help are health if we are just hurting it

[SuperConductor]

Originally Posted by Mr Celsius

Huh, I wouldn't have guessed that. I just assumed HID's were higher output of lumens, so they would be more intense on the eyes. Makes sense though that you're working closer to the CFL though; square inverse laws says the closer you are to something, the more intense it is.

That's prbably what it is yeah, when I'm that close (arms length) to HID I wouldn't be able to look at the bulb but with CFLs it's not so bright so you don't get the instinctive feeling you need to look away.

I was talking HPS tho which don't give off UV and both MH and daylight CFLs do don't they? I caught a glimpse (just half a second) of my 110w cuttings lamp today and it was an instant headache starter, very unpleasant. I definitely think there's a cumulative damage effect as this never used to be a problem.

[Mr Celsius]

Originally Posted by SuperConductor

That's prbably what it is yeah, when I'm that close (arms length) to HID I wouldn't be able to look at the bulb but with CFLs it's not so bright so you don't get the instinctive feeling you need to look away.

I was talking HPS tho which don't give off UV and both MH and daylight CFLs do don't they? I caught a glimpse (just half a second) of my 110w cuttings lamp today and it was an instant headache starter, very unpleasant. I definitely think there's a cumulative damage effect as this never used to be a problem.

Yes Metal halides do put off harmful UV. Even burnt out MH's with power still going to them can put off UV; this has caused several people to have severe eye damage in commercial lighting. I don't knkow about CFL's.

I agree, it is cumulative. Most people are okay with it at first, but overtime, we all start to have problems.

[JackCough]

Sunglasses also help in the exploding bare bulb arena.

[HIGHGROOVE]

zo then wht kind of glasses do u suggest

[ArcticBlast]

WELDERS USE A HELMET, FLASHBURN IS NO JOKE

ArcticBlast

[hazy]

AB~ you got that right^^ Flashburn on your eyes is enough to make you cry.^^