[phattybudz]

In the past I've run a 4x4 tent with a 1k, and have been thinking about running 2k in a 4x8 tent (hps.) Right now I'm running 6k hps but I'm going to be moving in a few harvests and have to downscale considerably, and I'm doing some research... so assuming I wanted to get 126w panels, how many would be best for a 4x4 or 4x8? I'm thinking 3 over each 4x4? I can't picture how wide they are, if I could cram 4 in there I probably would though...

Assuming the test runs people are doing now turn out well I will definitely be a customer in the future though. Happy new year!

[LEDGirl]

4 x 126W units is recommended for a 4' x 4' area. You could fit more of them in there if you wanted to, but it would start getting a bit crowded. We will also be offering a new 205W panel in about a week, that will measure 19" x 19". You could put 4 of them in as well, if you wanted some serious wattage in that area (50W/sq ft +). Seems like you already understand watt per square foot though, and how that can effect your yield, so really it depends on what you're after

[phattybudz]

Nice, I will definitely take a look at the 205 watters... no reason NOT to go bigger when you don't need to upgrade your power to accommodate more lights.

[stoney419]

Ya this was the thread I've been thinking of starting phattybudz is already on it check out the thread in my sig my goal is to have 4x8 ebb/flow tables lit by LEDs a friend of mine just bought some 300 wtt led lights from a company he seen in maxim yeld magazine I think he's going to put 12 300 watters over 4 4x8 tables pushed together for a 16x8 foot print I think the idea of 16 205 watters may be the way to go so if you want to work me up a price on 8 or 16 of the 205s and pm me with it led girl I'll do a grow here at ICmag in the indoor hydro section thanks for all your doing led girl

[bosshoggin]

how much would u harvest dry on past runs wit the 4x4

[stoney419]

Any where between 2-3 pounds depending on the strain i figured it up it would actully be 420 watts more then my 2 600s on a mover
but with no venting and lower cooling bills is worth the trade off IMHO if the yeld don't drop not pushing out hot air could mean the diferance in geting busted or not

[icdog]

LEDGirl I am considering your products for a 4x4 setup.
The recommended 4 x 126 w is about 1800 dollars just for one 4x4. I understand the savings in cooling etc. but this seems like an extreme amount. Is it certain that the 4x126w will produce equivalent to a 1000w in a 4x4 setup or would it compare to a 600w?
The comparison should be equivalent to the standard g/w that a 1000w will achieve over a 4x4.

[phattybudz]

Damn Stoney that sounds sick, I will look forward to seeing that if you do decide to purchase them... I am still a little unsure myself and have been waiting to see a pro such as yourself do a big grow!

I am actually going to be moving in a couple months and redesigning my grow, I think I may do one tent LED and one HPS to compare the 2...

[LEDGirl]

Originally Posted by icdog

LEDGirl I am considering your products for a 4x4 setup.
The recommended 4 x 126 w is about 1800 dollars just for one 4x4. I understand the savings in cooling etc. but this seems like an extreme amount. Is it certain that the 4x126w will produce equivalent to a 1000w in a 4x4 setup or would it compare to a 600w?
The comparison should be equivalent to the standard g/w that a 1000w will achieve over a 4x4.

There is no standard gram per watt rating for HID growers. I think this is one of the biggest myths amongst HID gardeners, as so many of them seem to think 1 gram per watt is easily achievable. If you want to see what each set of lights would do, you have to compare them side by side with the same conditions, performed by the same gardener. If you have not seen it yet, check out the 2x126W vs 600W HPS grow by Genetics on this forum. His yield was 10% higher using 252W of LED, vs what he achieved under his 600W HPS. This is a real world side by side test, and we have many more scheduled to begin soon.

So, can you achieve similar or better yields using 4 of our 126W units in a 4x4 area vs a 1000W HID? If the results from Genetics are any indication, the answer should be yes. I don't make promises though as every gardener is different, and LED growing takes at least 1-2 cycles to get used to. If you're still undecided, stick around for the upcoming 205W vs 400W HPS grows, and the 126W vs 250W HPS grow. They should be starting within the next month or so.

[phattybudz]

So, I am worried about the weight of 4 205w units, I think 100lbs is too much for a sunhut xl 4x4 tent...


I'm considering two 345W units, which would be 50lbs, still seems too heavy with a carbon filter hung up too....I want to run 2 tents side by side and compare the 2 with an aircooled 1k hps (what I usually use in a 4x4 tent,) and as much LED as I can fit in the other.... I have been trying to find the max weight for sunhuts but I can't find it, maybe another tent supports more weight... off to google!

*EDIT* HMM... nevermind, hydrohut silver 4x4 supports 125 lbs, I COULD run 4 205 watters...

The whole reason I wanted to do 2 tents was that I wouldn't have to modify my electric system, but a 4x8 would be better than 2 4x4s and 1380watts is fine on a single breaker...so now I'm thinking maybe 4X345 watts over a 4x8 table...43w/sf, 100 lbs... $4,600 though, I'm not sure I will have that kind of cash for a little while yet.