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Old 12-16-2009, 05:54 PM #1
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First time vertical. Is my setup OK? (2010 MARCH EDIT!) ACTUAL PHOTOS !!!

Hi
I'm planning a room for a vertical grow. Please help me, I want to know if it will WORK, and if it does i need to know whats wrong and what i can improve.

Please read the bottom points to know whats what.


  • 4 plants, high with net around it.
  • 1 plant in the middle! VERY low!
  • The middle light is a 1000watt MH with a normal dish reflector
  • there will be 2 x 600HPS on EACH corner stacked on top of eachother with cooltubes.
  • There is a carbon filter in the corner of the room as you can see already.
  • Vent is provided with a hole in the ground top right(forgot to draw it)
  • Cooltube intake will be a DUCT connected to a HOLE in the door, and a 570CFM fan will be used.
  • The cooltubes will be exhausted in the ceiling.
  • I will use SHIELDS on the vertical cooltubes as shown in the diagram.
  • Total watts. (600HPS x 8) + 1000MH = 5800watts.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:36 PM #2
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I'm a little confused by the drawering... but I think i get the idea. You might want to remove the ducting in the diagram; you can work that in after the fact. I'm no vertical grow expert (yet), but I expect vert. is where I am going to end up based on efficiency)

A couple of things come to mind...

+Redo the 600W light placement. Putting lights on the outside of a vert setup defeats the purpose. The point of vert is to maximize your light usage by making use of all 360 degrees of the light, instead of trying to reflect the back half of your bulbs output. REMEMBER light degrades exponentially the further you get away. You half your available light every foot further away the plant is.

+ you might be better off using more smaller plants. I know that is more of a PITA, but it allows you to sculpt your canopy to match the throw of your light. Utilizing every ounce of available light is the name of the game.

I'm still doing horizontal. Its a 4.5x4.5 aero table under 1Kw. What I do is put the larger plants on the outside and smaller on the inside forming an inverted dome. This allows me to bring the light closer and make the distance from plant to light much more even.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:56 PM #3
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Yes the ducting is mean to be on the ground!
Do you mean the lights where the plants are and the plants where the lights are?
I thought about this method and thought the plants wont get lit in the corners of it facing the walls
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:39 PM #4
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loose the reflector and the cool tubes they are like heat lamps and the tube take away much needed lumens, get a A/C or have good exhaust keep temps below 85f,
everything else looks fine if u grow in coco ur lookin at a easy 1 gram a watt..... just my 2 cents.. good luck on ur grow!
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:05 AM #5
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thanks for the reply.
I was thinking of the reflector there because theres no plants on that side.
Also, i have no choice but cooltubes. Because i live in the dryest city in the world, last year, it was 40c+ (105F) for more than 7 straight days. Its also known to get to 114 here.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:51 AM #6
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Here are some updates! please opinions/hints/tips/criticism is more than welcome! I am a newbie and this is my first time vertical.








And just to use that extra side near the door..

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:29 AM #7
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looks good. kinda cluttered in the pics though. just try to circle your plants around the lights as much as possible.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:45 AM #8
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Looks good! I like!

You keeping an online journal? Link?
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:30 AM #9
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Goofy I bet if you rearranged things you could get the same yield as you are now minus a couple of those bulbs. You could save some on your electrical bill or just get yield more. Your plants look great, but those lights should be moved. What are the temps like in there?
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:24 PM #10
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Hey Catman! thanks, what do you mean by moving the lights?!?
Right now my temp is 30c. Its starting to get cool here.
I'm running 4800w atm because i ran out of extension cords and such.

Hey is there ANY way to trim these plants? they are so big now, 6-7 foot high in the pots!!
without the pots they'd be about 5'4
I'm not sure how to trim them because i've only been familiar with canopy grows.
I'll take some photos as they progress.
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