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phishin · 12-13-2009, 11:04 PM

This is my first grow and I used Jack's Orchid Special, 30-10-10 for veg. and Jack's Fertilizer, 10-30-20 Blossom Booster for about half of flowering and then swithched to Neptune's Harvest 2-4-1 for the second half of flowering. Would these be considered advanced nutrients? These seemed much cheaper than big bud and bud candy and all the jazz. What is the difference? Would I really see a significant difference if I went out and bought all those expensive nutrients than what I used on my first grow?

CaptainTrips · 12-13-2009, 11:45 PM

Waste of money for a first grow, and arguably any grow... lol At the very least you should get your grow "dialed in", so you have some sort of baseline for typical yield and plant quality. You can then try switching things up and see how different nutes change things.

botanist85 · 12-14-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainTrips

Waste of money for a first grow, and arguably any grow... lol At the very least you should get your grow "dialed in", so you have some sort of baseline for typical yield and plant quality. You can then try switching things up and see how different nutes change things.

I feel what your saying but may I add that AN bud candy is a pretty good supp. Yes it is molasses at the base but it is also packed with a lot of other essentials. 72 trace elements, more diverse carbohydrates then molasses alone, extracts like yeast to boost the beneficial count, vitamins and a full line up of bench chain amino acids.

I actually combine bud candy with beestie bloomz from fox farm and the results were great. Not saying my results wouldn't have been If I didn't use the two products together but while I did use them I was very pleased and impressed with my results.

I was happy with the outcome. Who is to blame, bud candy and beestie bloomz? Or just strong genes and genetics? The strain was called 'medi bud' and it was a super solid experience.

CaptainTrips · 12-14-2009, 12:09 AM

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Not to bad IMHO. but who is to blame, AN bud candy & beestie bloomz or just solid genes and genetics.

This is why imo, you should start with basic stuff. You could have very well (most likely) gotten the same or similar results with a basic nute regimen. Of coarse you could always start with the expensive stuff, then switch out to more basic stuff and see if any differerence is noted...

Toomp · 12-14-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by botanist85

I feel what your saying but may I add that AN bud candy is a pretty good supp. Yes it is molasses at the base but it is also packed with a lot of other essentials. 72 trace elements, more diverse carbohydrates then molasses alone, extracts like yeast to boost the beneficial count, vitamins and a full line up of bench chain amino acids.

I actually combine bud candy with beestie bloomz from fox farm and the results were great. Not saying my results wouldn't have been If I didn't use the two products together but while I did use them I was very pleased and impressed with my results.

I was happy with the outcome. Who is to blame, bud candy and beestie bloomz? Or just strong genes and genetics? The strain was called 'medi bud' and it was a super solid experience.

you said you had good experience, what was the Experience? Taste? Yield? Appearance? Smoke?

botanist85 · 12-14-2009, 08:23 AM

All of the above. More so the taste and bud production ext..

hookahma · 12-16-2009, 02:16 AM

yeah...using the basics is a good place to start. Always find out what you need to do first and then ramp up the grows once you get the basiccs down.

ADvanced Nutrients can be complicated stuff, stuff that beginners or those a little nervous about nutes might want to wait on, until their ready. I mean, its not rocket science, but let's face it, that schedule is tricky for those who aren't used to a lot of nutes

I mean, AN is awesome stuff for me, but it might not be a good for everyone else...not everyone is the same, ya know

12-16-2009, 04:42 AM

Advanced is as good as any other name brand nutrient out their, take your pick. (I use GH)
Theirs a learning curve to any line of nutrients (even with the MG I used in the plant pictured). AN is not the cheapest so you might want to get your feet wet with something else, just my

And you certainly don't need Advanced or any other name brand like that to grow sticky dank that tastes good; the plant shown is Mango/Widow and was grown in coco using nothing but MiracleGrow Tomato plant food.
Imho, it's not the nutrient brand that makes a great grow, but
your understanding of what the plant needs, and how to go about giving it to the plant. Once you figure that out, the brands/types of nutrients you can use become almost limitless. GH just gives me greater control over ratios.
In a pinch, I know I can grow dank in MG soil and plant food.

Toomp · 12-18-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by botanist85

All of the above. More so the taste and bud production ext..

thanks

Mr. Greengenes · 12-18-2009, 06:02 AM

"it's not the nutrient brand that makes a great grow, but
your understanding of what the plant needs, and how to go about giving it to the plant. Once you figure that out, the brands/types of nutrients you can use become almost limitless"
Very refreshing to hear that kind of thinking.

12-13-2009, 11:04 PM	#1
phishin Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 35	Advanced nutrients really work? This is my first grow and I used Jack's Orchid Special, 30-10-10 for veg. and Jack's Fertilizer, 10-30-20 Blossom Booster for about half of flowering and then swithched to Neptune's Harvest 2-4-1 for the second half of flowering. Would these be considered advanced nutrients? These seemed much cheaper than big bud and bud candy and all the jazz. What is the difference? Would I really see a significant difference if I went out and bought all those expensive nutrients than what I used on my first grow?

12-18-2009, 06:02 AM	#10
Mr. Greengenes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,507	"it's not the nutrient brand that makes a great grow, but your understanding of what the plant needs, and how to go about giving it to the plant. Once you figure that out, the brands/types of nutrients you can use become almost limitless" Very refreshing to hear that kind of thinking. __________________ "The first principal is not to fool yourself, and you are the easiest one to fool". R.P.Feynman

12-13-2009, 11:45 PM	#2
CaptainTrips Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 877	Waste of money for a first grow, and arguably any grow... lol At the very least you should get your grow "dialed in", so you have some sort of baseline for typical yield and plant quality. You can then try switching things up and see how different nutes change things.

12-14-2009, 08:23 AM	#6
botanist85 Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cloud 9.75 Posts: 123	All of the above. More so the taste and bud production ext..

12-16-2009, 02:16 AM	#7
hookahma New Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 20	yeah...using the basics is a good place to start. Always find out what you need to do first and then ramp up the grows once you get the basiccs down. ADvanced Nutrients can be complicated stuff, stuff that beginners or those a little nervous about nutes might want to wait on, until their ready. I mean, its not rocket science, but let's face it, that schedule is tricky for those who aren't used to a lot of nutes I mean, AN is awesome stuff for me, but it might not be a good for everyone else...not everyone is the same, ya know

12-16-2009, 04:42 AM	#8
Guest 18340 Guest Posts: n/a	Advanced is as good as any other name brand nutrient out their, take your pick. (I use GH) Theirs a learning curve to any line of nutrients (even with the MG I used in the plant pictured). AN is not the cheapest so you might want to get your feet wet with something else, just my And you certainly don't need Advanced or any other name brand like that to grow sticky dank that tastes good; the plant shown is Mango/Widow and was grown in coco using nothing but MiracleGrow Tomato plant food. Imho, it's not the nutrient brand that makes a great grow, but your understanding of what the plant needs, and how to go about giving it to the plant. Once you figure that out, the brands/types of nutrients you can use become almost limitless. GH just gives me greater control over ratios. In a pinch, I know I can grow dank in MG soil and plant food.