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Green&Gold · 12-13-2009, 05:13 PM

So I'm thinking that angling the plant toward the light could really help my in terms of pruning, and help me create a more even canopy and increase yield, ie more plants per sqft.

So I'd like to try my non-carpenter hand at building some shelves out of wood with slanted shelves. Hmmmm I tried to make an ASCII drawing of my idea, but I suck. I'll try and put it into words.

I'd like to build regular shelves, two uprights, with a shelf made out of two boards, in an L (90 degree angle), and angled so the upright part of the L is about 45 degrees toward the light, the L shelf secured by boards underneath which are screwed into the uprights. Does this make any kind of sense? I'm just trying to figure out if this will work in terms of strength etc. Namaste

12-13-2009, 05:16 PM

45 is a little strong, but I run something similar with my vert lights.

the strength is fine, the boards don't care what angle they are.

Green&Gold · 12-13-2009, 09:22 PM

hey - i think i was getting too complicated...

I was just looking at this post / picture https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php...1&postcount=10 and saw the potential, easy answer to my question. what do you think? I like square pots so it works for my situation.

Dhude · 12-15-2009, 06:36 PM

You don't need to angle the shelves, just get the offset right (front higher than back) and they'll sit at an angle

-OR-

have no vertical offset and get the gap between the front & back correct and they will also sit at the angle.

Green&Gold · 12-16-2009, 08:52 PM

hey dhude - thx for coming by. i'm not sure i understand, i'm not very good at carpentry, pls excuse my obtuseness. Can you explain a bit more about what is going to be higher, in terms of offset? And I'm not sure about the gap between from and back? are you speaking of the photo from heath i linked to in the previous post? Namaste

Dhude · 12-16-2009, 09:05 PM

I'll try.

Imagine two "rails" made of 2x4, running parallel to each other in a horizontal config. Now, if the gap bweteen rails is less than the pot width, and the rails are at the same height (no offset), the pot will sit at an angle with one edge of the pot sitting between the rails. By playing with an offset (putting one rail higher than the other) you can monkey with the angle while keeping them stable (don't just assume back higher than front,try both ways)

Most pots taper down from the top, so the other option is to run parallel rails at a gap where the pot will JUST BARELY fit between the rails. Now toy with offsets to get your angle where you want it.

krunchbubble · 12-16-2009, 09:06 PM

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Green&Gold · 12-17-2009, 06:13 PM

thanks guys. I totally understand what to do now.

I just need to consider if this will work for my situation, regarding watering, since I do organic soil, not hydro. and how fast disassembly could occur.

Namaste.

PhenotypeX · 01-12-2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by krunchbubble

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choch · 01-13-2010, 12:02 AM

The other option is just to use flat shelves and plant your clones at an angle in the pot.

The advantage to not tilting the pots (other than simplifying the building of shelves for non-carpenters) is that you don't lose any of the volume of the pot for root space. If the pot is tipped one edge is higher than the root zone and unused, as you can't fill above the lower edge - this can be seen in heath's gutter pics, the pots aren't full of medium or they would make a mess when watering.

Coliseum gardeners usually veg seperately in a beer cup or similar on a flood table, then transplant into the coliseum (at an angle) for flowering.

12-13-2009, 05:13 PM	#1
Green&Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Always Learning Posts: 229	Designing Wooden Vertical Shelves to Angle Plant to Light... So I'm thinking that angling the plant toward the light could really help my in terms of pruning, and help me create a more even canopy and increase yield, ie more plants per sqft. So I'd like to try my non-carpenter hand at building some shelves out of wood with slanted shelves. Hmmmm I tried to make an ASCII drawing of my idea, but I suck. I'll try and put it into words. I'd like to build regular shelves, two uprights, with a shelf made out of two boards, in an L (90 degree angle), and angled so the upright part of the L is about 45 degrees toward the light, the L shelf secured by boards underneath which are screwed into the uprights. Does this make any kind of sense? I'm just trying to figure out if this will work in terms of strength etc. Namaste __________________ More Love
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12-13-2009, 09:22 PM	#3
Green&Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Always Learning Posts: 229	hey - i think i was getting too complicated... I was just looking at this post / picture https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php...1&postcount=10 and saw the potential, easy answer to my question. what do you think? I like square pots so it works for my situation. __________________ More Love
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12-16-2009, 08:52 PM	#5
Green&Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Always Learning Posts: 229	hey dhude - thx for coming by. i'm not sure i understand, i'm not very good at carpentry, pls excuse my obtuseness. Can you explain a bit more about what is going to be higher, in terms of offset? And I'm not sure about the gap between from and back? are you speaking of the photo from heath i linked to in the previous post? Namaste __________________ More Love
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12-16-2009, 09:06 PM	#7
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12-17-2009, 06:13 PM	#8
Green&Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Always Learning Posts: 229	thanks guys. I totally understand what to do now. I just need to consider if this will work for my situation, regarding watering, since I do organic soil, not hydro. and how fast disassembly could occur. Namaste. __________________ More Love
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12-13-2009, 05:16 PM	#2
mexilandrace Guest Posts: n/a	45 is a little strong, but I run something similar with my vert lights. the strength is fine, the boards don't care what angle they are.
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12-15-2009, 06:36 PM	#4
Dhude Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 114	You don't need to angle the shelves, just get the offset right (front higher than back) and they'll sit at an angle -OR- have no vertical offset and get the gap between the front & back correct and they will also sit at the angle.
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12-16-2009, 09:05 PM	#6
Dhude Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 114	I'll try. Imagine two "rails" made of 2x4, running parallel to each other in a horizontal config. Now, if the gap bweteen rails is less than the pot width, and the rails are at the same height (no offset), the pot will sit at an angle with one edge of the pot sitting between the rails. By playing with an offset (putting one rail higher than the other) you can monkey with the angle while keeping them stable (don't just assume back higher than front,try both ways) Most pots taper down from the top, so the other option is to run parallel rails at a gap where the pot will JUST BARELY fit between the rails. Now toy with offsets to get your angle where you want it.
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01-13-2010, 12:02 AM	#10
choch Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 168	The other option is just to use flat shelves and plant your clones at an angle in the pot. The advantage to not tilting the pots (other than simplifying the building of shelves for non-carpenters) is that you don't lose any of the volume of the pot for root space. If the pot is tipped one edge is higher than the root zone and unused, as you can't fill above the lower edge - this can be seen in heath's gutter pics, the pots aren't full of medium or they would make a mess when watering. Coliseum gardeners usually veg seperately in a beer cup or similar on a flood table, then transplant into the coliseum (at an angle) for flowering.
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