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Old 08-16-2005, 10:13 PM #11
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If they 'really' wanted to - The DEA could do anything they want right now

Trust me; after having 2 intercepted ... I checked into what they could do if they did come after me.

it is not illegal to order them - it's illegal to possess & germinate them - It can be proved in court that is only hear say U yourself ordered the seeds - or took the picts in a online gallery. (no mater the method of payment)

They do not have the resources to chase down every small grower in the USA & unless U are a large scale grower or illegally supporting a subversive cause - I would not be 'overly paranoid'

Fear is a great weapon of the enemy... yet.... healthy fear is a good thing / do a security sweep & lay low for a while.= i.e - don't order for a while & let this wind blow over-

if U feel that paranoid - stop growing & they have nothing they can do to you= i.e. that's what they are after

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I'm sure many of you are worried about what use may be made of the photos in your gallery and even the posts you make.

At least for Canada and the US, there appears to be little difference in the way the law views admissibility of statements and photographs, digital or otherwise.

The main issue, as it has been for many years, is that the photographs must be authenticated by the person who took them. Either by way of a certificate / affidavit or viva voce testimony.

Lets assume the worst case scenario: you have been busted, and the cops have discovered your computer and all your (incriminating?) Overgrow pics. Are you in more trouble? Not so. Since you cannot be compelled to testify against yourself, there can be no way to verify who took the pictures, and whether or not they have been altered in any way. They are hearsay and generally not admissible as evidence.

Pictures or statements of this nature can go in as evidence if;
1) both parties agree to it.
2) you testify as to their authenticity. I doubt either of the above is likely to happen.

A lot of people get their PC's taken in a bust; however, they are usually looking for evidence of money laundering, like people running spreadsheets or keeping lists of who owes them what.

In any event, the posts that you make concerning your pictures and grow are hearsay also, since they also must be verified as authentic by the original poster. The cop on the stand would have to say, "Well, the information (which I can't verify hasn't been altered by a third party) on an OG Member's computer (which I can't verify that he actually personally posted) tells me that he (may have) said that these pictures (which I can't verify have not been altered) are his...."

Hearsay. Not admissible.

Keep yourself and your personal details out of your photos & posts for the sake of prudence, as these things may be used to inspire an investigation should you be recognized, but not as evidence against you in a trial proper.

[Editor’s note:

Digital cameras label their image files, often with a unique manufacturer code and time stamp in the file name.

Example: FG_300_120312.jpg

Members should rename their digital camera files to make the images anonymous, and ensure their images are not traceable to your camera.]

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Old 08-16-2005, 10:29 PM #12
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the idea that anybody would respond to that letter anyway is retarded!

if you knew MED got busted,

and you were dumb enough to mail the shit to your house,

God willing,

you better be bright enough to read that letter, shread it

and move asap, as you've clearly done enough dumb shit

lately.

just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:03 AM #15
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Meditating - you ordered from Seeds Direct, not M.E.....so you have no worries...relax!

as others have wisely advised - always use a safe (non-growing) postal address

send cash or M.O.(cash notes in the mail can be stolen so fold the notes longways 3 times then fold into an L shape to disguise it and place inbetween other paper in an envelope.)

send the envelope by Registered Mail which means the specified addressee has to sign for it which minimises theft

but if there are other factors involved that has given you the heebie jeebies like telling the wrong people or other problems, then it's better to be safe than jailed ..so "clean the house" .....take down the grow, get rid of smoking tools, wash the hastrays etc and later on start again at a safe location.

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:43 PM #16
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I would avoid sending things by registered mail as I dont know if seed vendors will sign for things that could implicate themselve in a conspiracy.
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