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05-22-2004, 02:42 PM
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CrunchNasty the real issue here is not the lights, its the "Rented Premises" this is how you will get caught.
Landlords will find excuses to enter your premises, just dropped by for a beer, need to paint/fix/repair basement sump pump, roof is leaking, yard needs weeding, I decided to list the property for sale, the list goes on. Unless you like living dangerously, don't worry about the electrical ratings calculations (interesting), worry about the Landlord catching you ! Why don't you do what I did. I went out in life and got a job, worked my ass off for 20 + years, saved enough to by my OWN HOUSE, then contemplated growing a few plants for my personal requirments. If you don't get the point then, I suppose it is pointless to continue. |
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05-22-2004, 04:45 PM
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vapour and babylon by bus are correct. 600s are more efficient in both operating costs and lumens per watt. what follows are manufacturers specs on both followed by a breakdown of operating costs. ______________________________ __________ Lamp Wattage 1000 Bulb Type/Finish ED25/Clear Base E39 Mogul Operating Position Universal Fixture Rating Open Correlated Color Temperature(K) 2100° Color Rendering (CRI) 21 ANSI Spec (Ballast) S52 HPS Initial Lumens 140,000 Lumens Per Watt 140 Mean Lumens 126,000 Ave. Rated Life (hrs @ 10hr/start) 24,000 Spectral Energy Red/Orange ______________________________ ______________ Lamp Wattage 600 Bulb Type/Finish T14/Clear Base E39 Mogul Operating Position Universal Fixture Rating Open Correlated Color Temperature(K) 2100° Color Rendering (CRI) 21 ANSI Spec (Ballast) S106 HPS Initial Lumens 90,000 Lumens Per Watt 150 Mean Lumens 81,000 Ave. Rated Life (hrs @ 10hr/start) 18,000 Spectral Energy Red/Orange ______________________________ _____________ Bulb Type Ballast Wattage -Cost per hour at $0.10 per KWH- Cost per day at 16 hours per day- Cost per Month 1000 watt High Pressure Sodium Bulb 1100 -$0.11- $1.76- $52.80 1000 watt Hortilux Enhanced Spectrum HPS 1100 -$0.11- $1.76- $52.80 600 Watt High Pressure Sodium Bulb 665 -$0.07 -$1.06- $31.92
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05-22-2004, 04:58 PM
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I'm glad I live where I live. My electric rate is $0.067 per KWH
 3200watts plus fans and exhuast in flower cost me about $125.00 a month. Ive got my 520watts( 400MH, and 6-20watt floru. ) and fans for veg. hooked up on water heater meter which is charged at $0.051 per KWH going 24/7 and that runs me about $27.00 . pease 
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05-22-2004, 05:07 PM
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my bill went up over a hunder dollars when I use my 1000w HPS so you are very lucky
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05-22-2004, 05:10 PM
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It helps that I use 220v for all but fans.
It cost me about $32.00 per 1000watts HPS per month. Last edited by SlackerScrog; 05-22-2004 at 05:13 PM.. |
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05-22-2004, 05:15 PM
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"POWER TO THE PEACEFUL" micheal franti LET LOVE GUIDE YOU LEAVE YOUR CLOWNSHOES AND YOUR NEGATIVITY AT THE DOOR PLEASE.. THANK YOU "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921 "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President. 18 Dec. 1840 PLEASE don't PM me for seeds or cuts,.. Thank you |
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05-23-2004, 12:27 AM
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Mybeans, the specs you listed are the ratings of the bulbs themselves rated to the wattage of the bulb as it runs off the ballast. The actual power consumption of your lights is based on the amps used by the ballast not the wattage of the bulb as previously discussed. You pay for what the ballast consumes, not what the bulb generates. You get more lumens from the power you pay for with a 1000.
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05-23-2004, 01:39 AM
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same holds true with your formula closetking
closet king, using your formula a 600 is still more efficient.
600: 5.7a x 120v =684w 1000: 9.5a x 120v =1140w 600: 90,000 lumens / 684w = 131.58 lpw 1000: 140,000 lumens / 1140w = 122.8 lpw
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"POWER TO THE PEACEFUL" micheal franti LET LOVE GUIDE YOU LEAVE YOUR CLOWNSHOES AND YOUR NEGATIVITY AT THE DOOR PLEASE.. THANK YOU "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921 "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President. 18 Dec. 1840 PLEASE don't PM me for seeds or cuts,.. Thank you |
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05-23-2004, 03:58 AM
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mea culpa,
I was basing my 600w calc on an older 600 a friend used to use, His pulled 6.2A. Transformer components have improved. And I'm using a 1000w hortilux which has 143K lumens. Thanks for the clarification. 2 600's would be better than 1 1000 but may push a 15 A ckt a little close if not staggerd on. |
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05-23-2004, 06:35 AM
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no problem
my uncle is an electrician. he's the one that convinced me the 600's would be better for me. otherwise i would have never known.
the only drawback i've found is canopy penetration. i used 8 air cooled 600s over a 12' x 6' on light rails to combat that problem. this lets me get them to within 8"of the canopy. you were right on the older models though. they have definately come a long way in efficiency in the last few years.
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"POWER TO THE PEACEFUL" micheal franti LET LOVE GUIDE YOU LEAVE YOUR CLOWNSHOES AND YOUR NEGATIVITY AT THE DOOR PLEASE.. THANK YOU "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921 "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President. 18 Dec. 1840 PLEASE don't PM me for seeds or cuts,.. Thank you Last edited by mybeans420; 05-23-2004 at 06:37 AM.. |
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